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[–]lairacunda 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You sound like you are just personally uncomfortable around GNC women, especially lesbians. What I've noticed in my personal experience is that it doesn't take much. It doesn't take much for people to find you repulsive if YOU DON'T PERFORM FEMININITY, if you like to do things that are culturally determined to be "male" things, if you are more physical and don't care to cater to the male gaze while working out, if you don't care that you ruffle feathers or hurt feelings because you intuitively know it's not your job to take care of men... or anyone. There are still millions of bona fide lesbians in the world but you manage to find the GNC woman who's most male-identified (in the traditional feminist sense of the term) and proceed to paint all of us with a broad roller.

Here's some background information. LGB as a political coalition came out of the Gay Liberation Movement which, despite its name had plenty of lesbians in it, lesbians who were organizing in the broader women's movement as well. The early liberation movement was very straight laced by comparison to what came later and they would have achieved absolutely nothing had they not been. But the early movement was never homogenous and one of the points of contention from the get-go was that the men and the women often had very different goals. It probably comes as a surprise to almost no one on this sub that the oppression and the issues that lesbians were dealing with (and are still dealing with) stemmed as much, if not more, from being a woman than from being a lesbian. The men on the other hand were not being oppressed because they were male but because they were gay, and because of the mainstream, status-quo reaction to their sexuality, sexuality that was not always kept out of the public eye despite laws and penalties. But originally the decriminalization efforts were focused on privacy, protections and legal rights for both gay men and women, at least officially. The truth is that in actuality the men got a lot more out of that struggle than we did because many of the problems confronting women remained firmly in place. Women's Liberation probably did as much if not more for lesbians than Gay Rights ever did.

So fastforwarding, the excesses of Pride started in the 90s, some would say the late 80s. My first pride in 1980 had none of the glitz, corporate sponsorship, floats, political endorsements, displays of public nudity, tacky bling or widespread media coverage that is now standard. Back then they were more like large family picnics with a stage and a lot of volunteers. You tried not to leave alone so as not to get assaulted. Obviously a lot has changed. The reason for what it's become is that we are different groups with different interests pretending we are all one big happy family. Many, not all, gay/bi men want to cruise and hang out in thongs. Many of the women just want a nice day celebration. Everyone wants to dance. It's a very mixed bag. And what about everyone else? They're there for the party! They get to act out their fetish in public at our expense but guess what, they're invited because it's LGBTQWTF+. We pretend it's for everyone but in reality Pride is a celebration of male sexuality. That's why a het couple in full dungeon gear will feel so welcome and accommodated. And that's why I haven't gone in a very long time just like all the other lesbians I know, including very butch women who like myself cannot stomach it.