"Imagine if the public knew about TERFs, so many people would take their side."

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[–][deleted] 53 insightful - 1 fun53 insightful - 0 fun54 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

It's funny they bring up the UK and JKR's twitter - I read a stat the other day saying only 1 in 5 people in the UK are even on Twitter and only 1 in 10 post. We talk about the filter bubble, but I really don't think TRA realize how much in a bubble ideologically they are. Overwhelmingly, their blind support comes from kids raised with this ideology, but if it gets off censored social media sites into public debate, the majority of people were not raised to believe there are 31 genders (legally recognized, as per NYC) who will question and reject their claims, who will clearly understand this to be a belief system or mental illness.

[–]EvaWumben 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly this! The more this hits the mainstream everyone will wonder what the fuss was about to begin with. Then perhaps they'll question why people are transitioning kids who are as young as 4.

[–]respectmyidentity 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem is the public has no idea they are trying to gut Title IX. No idea at all.

[–]materialrealityplz 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

The 31 genders:

Bi-Gendered

Cross-Dresser

Drag-King

Drag-Queen

Femme Queen

Female-to-Male

FTM

Gender Bender

Genderqueer

Male-To-Female

MTF

Non-Op

Hijra

Pangender

Transexual/Transsexual

Trans Person

Woman

Man

Butch

Two-Spirit

Trans

Agender

Third Sex

Gender Fluid

Non-Binary Transgender

Androgyne

Gender-Gifted

Gender Bender

Femme

Person of Transgender Experience

Androgynous

[–]neveragain 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Please note that these are not legally recognised genders, per se. I looked this up and the assertion that they are appears to be bad reporting. See this page: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/45675/does-new-york-city-legally-recognize-31-different-genders

NYC recognises 3 genders on birth certificates (M, F, and X for nonbinary).

The list here of "31 genders" is a guideline given on descriptors people may use when referring to their gender expression. It's tied in with anti-discrimination legislation based on gender identity and expression, but it doesn't mean these terms listed here are legally recognised as genders. This is why the list reads really weirdly and has repeating statements like "Female-to-Male" and "FTM". Trans people also don't describe their gender, specifically, using terms like "FTM" to begin with so you can see how this is a false narrative.

The real list of Tumblr genders that enbies can fall into is waaaay more out there.

[–]venecia 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

NYC recognises 3 genders on birth certificates (M, F, and X for nonbinary).

What the actual fuck. Medical professionals should be clearly stating the sex of the neonate for the purposes of the child's future healthcare.

And the fact that you can just choose the sex of your baby at birth against available evidence is batshit insane, and HAS raised some very fucked up children who struggle with mental health issues for life.

[–]tuesday 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

ha, please please would a woman who has just given birth PLEASE argue with the medical staff that they'd like a different sex on the birth certificate?

So, if you give birth to a boy, insist that the doctor or midwife has "obviously assigned the gender wrong, see, my child clearly prefers the pink blanket so is obviously a girl". Just terf them right to the top of terf mountain.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This seemed pretty legit to me.

[–]neveragain 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is legit, in the sense that it is a leaflet published in 2015 by the NYC Commission on Human Rights. The descriptors listed are likely meant as a guide on terms commonly used when people refer to their gender identity or expression. We can infer this as the first page of the card specifically highlights gender ID and expression. That does not mean each of these descriptors are, individually, legally recognised genders. There is a difference. The page I linked goes into further detail about this leaflet.

[–]moonlightascending 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ugh. I didn't realize 31 were legally recognized in NYC. I've always wanted to go to Columbia/Barnard, but they're both TRA breeding grounds so I'm not sure if I could feel at home there.

[–]Realwoman 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wait, is the 31 genders being legally recognized thing real?

[–]neveragain 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No it isn't, it's bad reporting. See my other comment in this thread or take a look at: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/45675/does-new-york-city-legally-recognize-31-different-genders

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The NY transplants I’ve spoken to think it’s a joke.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is where I got it.

[–]tuesday 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

i am not doubting that you read such a statistic, but i am doubtful that one in five people have a twitter account. The only people that i know who have an account there, are young adults (ie students). anecdotal for sure but my experience is probably not too far from the norm...

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the Uk, the population is 63m and 13m on twitter. I don't remember the article that had the info and specifically said only 1 in 10 actually post, though (I read too many articles these days).

[–]oatmealhockey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And those of us raised in it, like me who spent my teenage years on tumblr and just graduated from a small liberal arts college, are very capable of waking up to how dumb this all is!