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[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Personally I'm not doing great financially which is why I don't like the fact that speaking freely - about almost anything on almost any platform in almost any context - can end my career before I ever claw my way out of poverty, probably permanently.

[–]DogeWalker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I also condemn the extremes of "cancel culture," but I am saying that "cancel culture" is a drop in the bucket compared to real economic concerns facing everyday working people. I don't want people to get banned from twitter or to have to look for a new job... but I also want my grandma to be able to afford her daily medication. In my opinion, making "anti cancel culture" your primary political issue, is shooting ourselves in the foot regarding the more overarching issues that control people's livelihoods in the first place. It makes no sense to me to become a single-issue voter on this issue. What about poor women and their access to health care???

[–]OrneryStruggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Cancel culture is NOT a drop in the bucket compared to real economic concerns facing everyday working people, it is one of THE SINGLE BIGGEST CONCERNS facing everyday working people. I am far less afraid of losing my job AND ALL FUTURE JOB PROSPECTS because of my chronic illness, because of an incident of incompetence, or anything else than I am afraid of losing it for my political beliefs.

This isn't some funny, trite issue of a couple people getting banned from twitter and remaking an account, it's about people losing their ENTIRE LIVELIHOODS FOREVER and being scared all the time, no matter who they are talking to and on what platform.

How am I supposed to afford my medications as someone with a disabling chronic illness who works full time if I lose my job and am unhireable later? I can't just go become a day laborer because I'm severely ill, so I have spent over a decade of abject poverty trying to make it in a career field that will allow me to earn money despite being very sick. I have spent the last few years of it scared shitless, with many other people in my position scared shitless. Cancel culture isnt just twitter or jobs either, it's also the government deciding who can access what services. In the liberal utopia of Canada poor immigrant women trying to make a scant living from at-home waxing and epilating services were sued for everything they had and lost their businesses because they didn't want to wax male genitalia. You are the one who is shooting yourself in the foot if you think this isn't a problem. It is one of THE MAIN OVERARCHING ISSUES that controls people's livelihoods right now, full stop.

As a poor woman my access to healthcare is guaranteed by my government, but access to drugs I need to live is not, so I need to keep my job in order to afford them. And I can't keep my job if I get "caught" having my beliefs. I.e., I have to spend my life acting really cautious and lying about issues that are fundamental to me, and I'm never sure when I might get caught anyway because I can't lie all the time to everybody.

[–]DogeWalker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ok, and I understand those concerns. I'm just coming from a position where... if we are honestly concerned about this stuff, we must think critically and rationally about it, and not have these kinds of extreme knee-jerk reactions.

If we react without thinking rationally, we're no better than those doing the cancelling.

[–]OrneryStruggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not a knee jerk reaction and I don't know why you think it is. It is a rational reaction to many years of worsening conditions for people like us - and not just people like us in the sense of "GC feminists" but anyone who is not down with the current trendy beliefs. I am an immigrant to a rich western country from a poor "backwards" country and this targets people like me and my family a lot more than it targets upper class western people with liberal arts educations. It is an assault on everything that leftism and liberal western societies in general used to stand for. It is a reinstantiation (but worse, according to my parents) of everything that caused them to leave our home country.

Not cancelling people on principle is in fact always going to be better than doing the cancelling.