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[–]emptiedriver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

global warming? I do get pretty confused over which data to believe, especially when people are so quick to reject anything that seems to counter the narrative. I don't want politics to be this antagonistic. It should just be sensible ship-steering, with voters choosing the candidates who seem most capable and have the best plans.. Hard to tell how much influence the executive branch ends up having. It's so much more complicated than that, and it does seem like the role of the media is important - if not to how we actually end up living, very much to how we see ourselves.

[–]100_percent_truth[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Honestly, if Republicans would be for the environment more than corporations, it would go a long way. I detest their stance on that.

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What have "progressive" governments actually done for the environment? Most of those people who signed all those treaties and accords, how close are they to meeting their pledged goals? Have you checked?

[–]100_percent_truth[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good point!

[–]OrneryStruggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll take this one. I personally believe that global warming/climate change is happening and that a large part of that is probably to do with man-made factors, although understanding climate science if you're not a climate scientist is VERY DIFFICULT and there is no real consensus on details, no matter what the media would have you believe.

However, the "democratic" stance on global warming is a total farce and lies, damned lies. Like everything else. The people supporting a lot of 'climate initiatives' are after money only and are likely to make environmental issues much worse. Most climate initiatives currently being supported by "progressive" governments and NGOs are not attempting to reduce environmental destruction or carbon emissions at all, but to re-sequester carbon (which is actually even more harmful for the environments, by many accounts) and to "financialize" nature.

I know this is a GC sub so I don't want to soapbox about environmental initiatives, but really, don't trust anything you're getting sold too hard as a black and white issue. It's money all the way down.