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[–]hermiona52 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Honestly, as someone from Europe Trump vs Biden is like choosing between far-right candidate and just right-wing one. The Left is starting to materialize in form of AOC gang and Bernie, but I'm baffled how anyone can really vote for Trump if you care at all about democracy.

Yeah, TRA is anti-science in many things. Trump is anti-science in ALL things, especially the most important ones - like healthcare and global warming.

[–]slushpilot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

how anyone can really vote ... if you care at all about democracy

But, that's—exactly how democracy works?

It's true you might not get what you think you're voting for, but all politicians lie or often turn out to be worse in practice than in theory.

the most important ones - like healthcare and global warming

These are indeed important. But first, if people can't even talk to each other then how can they hope to resolve anything else, especially big questions like that? It has to start with not silencing the opposing voice, which you must allow to be heard, if you care about democracy.

[–]immersang 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But, that's—exactly how democracy works?

It's true you might not get what you think you're voting for, but all politicians lie or often turn out to be worse in practice than in theory.

You just deleted a crucial part of the quote (the "for Trump" part) and then pretended like the poster doesn't want people to vote in general. What the hell?

[–]slushpilot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because that's exactly the point: you still get a vote in democracy, no matter who it's for or how terrible they are.

[–]OrneryStruggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Except one of them is for sure a molester of children and one of them only probably is.

Trump was less anti-science about COVID than Fauci, which is kind of hilarious considering how wildly stupid Trump is. US politics are a farce but stop shaming people for having a conscience and not wanting to vote for a child molester with dementia.