The one reason we all can't speak our minds is cancel culture. Cancel culture was created by so-called progressive democrats. I've only ever voted Democrat in my life, but I just can't support that anymore. Don't downvote till you've read please.

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[–]Girlwiththeraventat 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

I don't see how Biden is going to help anything. I don't think Trump will fix anything either. He'll probably make things worse, but I'm worried about Biden taking wokeness too far. I feel like we are on a path to have thought crimes soon, you won't be able to have an opinion unless it's the "right one"

[–]quickbeam 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Biden's going to listen to medical professionals and help us get Covid under control. For that alone it's worth voting for him. He's also likely going to get immigrant kids out of cages, stop banning people from random countries that happen to have Muslim populations, and generally improve our standing internationally. I doubt Biden is very woke, and the only thing that he'd probably affect in terms of trans rights would be choosing Supreme Court justices, which is much more crucial in terms of how it will affect abortion rights than anything else at this point.

[–]100_percent_truth[S] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Ok, I know it's hard to break the programming but I need to go be open minded that much like the trans debate, you're only being told one side by the media. Lemme preface all of this by saying I'm not a trump fan. Just a fan of the truth.

  1. On cages: Obama started the "cage" program. The media circulated a pic from 2014 to use against Trump as an example of kids in cages.

A) https://twitter.com/azcentral/status/1000875531250774016?s=20

B) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/sep/13/joe-biden/fact-checking-biden-use-cages-during-obama-adminis/

  1. On covid: it is under control. This is the latest CDC data on deaths in the entire country. We are chronologically speaking at the bottom row now.

https://i.imgur.com/uZKTl6H.jpg

Much like the trans narrative, there is some agenda here that's not borne out by facts.

  1. Banning people from Muslim countries? Trump only used the list made specifically by Obama for this.

https://observer.com/2017/01/barack-obama-policies-foundation-donald-trump-muslim-ban/

If you start to realize that everything is like the trans narrative, that you're told to think a certain way and it all crumbles when you look into it, you'll see why I feel politically homeless. The knee jerk reaction is to say that well, Trump is worse. I'm actually not sure that's true in even half of the issues if you really look at them. They are all bad.

[–]koalayoga 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agree, and the idea that Joe Biden can singlehandedly stop coronavirus at this point is wishful thinking at best. Most people don't want to be locked down, period, and I think that goes beyond right vs. left. In fact, a Democrat might make things worse by enacting more draconian national lockdowns that would just lead to a full out rebellion.

[–]emptiedriver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

global warming? I do get pretty confused over which data to believe, especially when people are so quick to reject anything that seems to counter the narrative. I don't want politics to be this antagonistic. It should just be sensible ship-steering, with voters choosing the candidates who seem most capable and have the best plans.. Hard to tell how much influence the executive branch ends up having. It's so much more complicated than that, and it does seem like the role of the media is important - if not to how we actually end up living, very much to how we see ourselves.

[–]100_percent_truth[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Honestly, if Republicans would be for the environment more than corporations, it would go a long way. I detest their stance on that.

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What have "progressive" governments actually done for the environment? Most of those people who signed all those treaties and accords, how close are they to meeting their pledged goals? Have you checked?

[–]100_percent_truth[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good point!

[–]OrneryStruggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll take this one. I personally believe that global warming/climate change is happening and that a large part of that is probably to do with man-made factors, although understanding climate science if you're not a climate scientist is VERY DIFFICULT and there is no real consensus on details, no matter what the media would have you believe.

However, the "democratic" stance on global warming is a total farce and lies, damned lies. Like everything else. The people supporting a lot of 'climate initiatives' are after money only and are likely to make environmental issues much worse. Most climate initiatives currently being supported by "progressive" governments and NGOs are not attempting to reduce environmental destruction or carbon emissions at all, but to re-sequester carbon (which is actually even more harmful for the environments, by many accounts) and to "financialize" nature.

I know this is a GC sub so I don't want to soapbox about environmental initiatives, but really, don't trust anything you're getting sold too hard as a black and white issue. It's money all the way down.

[–]Feather 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think Biden would mostly stay out of this BS. Or at least I hope. All the "woke" people I know hate him, especially TRA's.

It pained me when Elizabeth Warren was trying to be woke by coddling people about pronouns at some point... I don't think Biden would bother with that.

Any moderate liberal is an evil fascist to these people. They don't see in shades of gray.

[–]ZeWombat 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Warren did more than coddling people about pronouns. She said she was going to have a trans kid 'interview' and have final say on her secretary of education pick. That's enough of Warren for me.

[–]immersang 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She said she was going to have a trans kid 'interview' and have final say on her secretary of education pick.

Yeah, that's when I knew the she had completely lost the plot. What a shame. I liked her before.

[–]GraceWindsorWexler 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I couldn't roll my eyes hard enough.

[–]OrneryStruggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Biden literally said trans rights are the civil rights issue of our time. Come now.

[–]stitchedlamb 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If it makes you feel any better, many progressives hate him because, frankly, up until Bernie got super popular Biden's views were just barely left of Reagan. He's come around on things like more progressive taxes for corporations and expanded medical insurance, but the dude doesn't even want to legalize weed. I think your fears are understandable, but unfounded.

[–]hermiona52 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Honestly, as someone from Europe Trump vs Biden is like choosing between far-right candidate and just right-wing one. The Left is starting to materialize in form of AOC gang and Bernie, but I'm baffled how anyone can really vote for Trump if you care at all about democracy.

Yeah, TRA is anti-science in many things. Trump is anti-science in ALL things, especially the most important ones - like healthcare and global warming.

[–]slushpilot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

how anyone can really vote ... if you care at all about democracy

But, that's—exactly how democracy works?

It's true you might not get what you think you're voting for, but all politicians lie or often turn out to be worse in practice than in theory.

the most important ones - like healthcare and global warming

These are indeed important. But first, if people can't even talk to each other then how can they hope to resolve anything else, especially big questions like that? It has to start with not silencing the opposing voice, which you must allow to be heard, if you care about democracy.

[–]immersang 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But, that's—exactly how democracy works?

It's true you might not get what you think you're voting for, but all politicians lie or often turn out to be worse in practice than in theory.

You just deleted a crucial part of the quote (the "for Trump" part) and then pretended like the poster doesn't want people to vote in general. What the hell?

[–]slushpilot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because that's exactly the point: you still get a vote in democracy, no matter who it's for or how terrible they are.

[–]OrneryStruggle 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Except one of them is for sure a molester of children and one of them only probably is.

Trump was less anti-science about COVID than Fauci, which is kind of hilarious considering how wildly stupid Trump is. US politics are a farce but stop shaming people for having a conscience and not wanting to vote for a child molester with dementia.

[–]LoopaLoopa 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In a discussion about JKR on a left leaning tech forum where I am usually the only woman, I found myself unable to enter the conversation and opted to send PMs to the guys who I was in agreement with because I’m. Not quite anonymous enough. It’s just not safe-not for women.

[–]sisterinsomnia 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is one of the ghastliest aspects of what is happening online and probably in real world, too. This silencing of people who are trying to hold onto their own hard-won rights.