Backlash after sociologist advocates for the abolition of the word mother

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[–]msteacherlady 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm with Mariana Janeiro over there. Thems can take the term "mother" out of my cold dead hands. Not all women experience bringing a child into this world the way I did, but there was no question who were the two mothers in the room when I gave birth. There was me, my mother and then my husband looking paler than I've ever seen him since.

I seriously don't know how transmen can endure that shock of birth and still hate women so much.

Side note, why do so many transwomen have that smug face for their professional profile photos? 1 part it's camouflaging 2 parts they know they're bad actors. It's the "Dreamworks Face" of social movements.

[–]womenopausal 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Autogynesmile + Duper's delight.

Jane Clare Jones has some deep thoughts on the culture of mother erasure.

[–]msteacherlady 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I love the Kate Bush mention at the bottom there. Side note, as a woman who loves some prog-rock, I am so sad that she's as close as we get to female representation in the genre, unless anyone would allow me to include Bjork.

Anyway, as if we didn't already know Reddit's consensus on women, I've noted mother erasure (or vilification) aplenty. Everyone creams their pants every time somebody reposts the dad doing his daughters hair. JustnoMIL (mother in law) exists, but not FIL. The only time you see people discuss their mother's on Reddit is if they have NPD, when an often minor parenting decision completely mutilated the poster's now-in-shambles life, or if she's dead (and all of a sudden Mother Goddamned Theresa.) It's like the plot of these people's lives are ripped from comic books.

[–]womenopausal 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I think there's something to be thought out around feminism's waves and schisms and the culture of mother-hatred. One thing of the many things I like about being in the rad quadrant of feminism is that we are happy to look back to the 70s and 80s and earlier for ideas and inspiration. However, libfems seem to be quite casual about dismissing the whole lot of it just on the basis that the women who created it were now old and not sexy. One of the things that made me realise this most viscerally was the language around Germaine Greer when she suddenly became the stroppiest face of gender-criticalness. Hag, bag, dried up old c*nt, senile - all from people who would otherwise police all terminology for pee-cee-ness. There are reasons they want to cut younger women off from the wisdom and experiences of older women. There are reasons they want to erode the status of mothers: we are the primary group who has a strong investement and understanding of child safeguarding.

[–]msteacherlady 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This has been making me so angry for so long. When I was a kid, I remember my parents having a laugh at themselves and their music gods for thinking they'd rather be dead by 30. Didn't any of us listen take that to heart? And now that I'm older, I'm the target of ageism more and more. That "ok boomer" bullshit is not just kids doing what they always do every generation, it's a catchy turn of phrase taken advantage of to further separate youth from their elders.

I've said this before: on Reddit, everyone's parents are abusive demons unless they died young, in which case they were angels. Of course there's a lot of young people on there and young people like to complain about how unfair it is that the xbox got taken away. The discord caused by parents simply parenting is over-amplified on Reddit though. Your parents are evil. We understand you though! It's cultish.

I wish lib fems would wake up. You're next!

[–]womenopausal 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Today's parents aren't even boomers, we're Gen X and older Millennials. My parents were actual boomers.

Yeah, these libfems are heading for a shock when they pass their last fuckable day and get saddled with 100% of child- and elder-care while in a shitty job with no security. Do they think they aren't going to age?