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[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

This is transphobic.

It’s pretty ignorant to accuse someone of being “transphobic” and not add links/quotes to what was considered transphobic and not add links/references to definitions of some sort to show that what the person said was transphobic.

If you believe in self-ID then you cannot say, "anyone who identifies as a woman is a woman....oh, except for this one person here...."

Can you quote me? Where did I say I did/didn’t believe in self-id?

If they say they are trans, they ARE trans, even if they did something terrible.

I have NO idea what you are going on about. Can you quote me?

That is what you get with self-ID. Pick a lane.

Again, can you quote me because I have no idea what you’re talking about otherwise.

[–]WinoRhino 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

And I quote

HOWEVER, I Do Not Believe these women are really trans women and only using trans women as a guise to assault other women

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Right. So what are you trying to prove by showing me this because there was more to what you said.

This is transphobic.

It’s pretty ignorant to accuse someone of being “transphobic” and not add links/quotes to what was considered transphobic and not add links/references to definitions of some sort to show that what the person said was transphobic.

If you believe in self-ID then you cannot say, "anyone who identifies as a woman is a woman....oh, except for this one person here...."

Can you quote me? Where did I say I did/didn’t believe in self-id?

If they say they are trans, they ARE trans, even if they did something terrible.

I have NO idea what you are going on about. Can you quote me?

That is what you get with self-ID. Pick a lane.

Again, can you quote me because I have no idea what you’re talking about otherwise.

Which part are you trying to explain?

[–]Irascible-harpy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I’m asking her to elaborate so I can better understand, isn’t that what this community is about? How is that being obtuse?

[–]Irascible-harpy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You aren't listening to what she's saying. You're expecting her to directly quote you instead of paraphrasing. Do you or do you not believe in Self-ID? Because that's essential to your core argument. She is extrapolating information based on what you say, while you're intentionally challenging her extrapolation without refuting her points.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You aren't listening to what she's saying. You're expecting her to directly quote you instead of paraphrasing.

Do you or do you not believe in Self-ID? Because that's essential to your core argument.

I didn’t even know what self-id was until she brought it up. Joining this community was the first that I’d ever even heard of this. How can I argue about something that I know nothing about. Which is why I’ve been asking for links and references. Again, I’ve mentioned several times that I’ve recently joined the GC community, so I’m pretty new.

She is extrapolating information based on what you say, while you're intentionally challenging her extrapolation without refuting her points.

No, I’m asking her to quote me because she’s making claims about me saying things that I’ve never said. It helps dissolve miscommunication and false information from spreading

[–]Irascible-harpy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I recommend that you take some time to educate yourself then. This is a gender critical community and not a debate forum. At a minimum, learn the core ideology and basic terminology to avoid confusion in the future.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My intentions weren’t to debate, and that’s what I’m working on. Resources and links are much appreciated.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is there a side bar for new people with links and references?

[–]Susiesmum 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you want to understand what has been happening over the past ten years, go to this website, scroll down to the bottom of the page and read through the archives starting with December 2010 https://www.gendertrending.com/

If you don't want to be accused of trolling us, pay attention to the people telling you to stop demanding answers. It is rude to go into a new group and dominate a conversation like that.