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[–]yishengqingwa666 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sweet male loser tears.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think its clear that these men have no life and that their life seems to be following women on social media and reporting them, its pretty sad.

[–]Fortiquen 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They really don't like it do they?

[–]mindsqueeze 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That makes my skin crawl! We are not rowdy toddlers in need of discipline.

[–]IneedALLtheplants 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

How on earth does a person this sensitive go about their daily life? I can imagine them dropping their cereal spoon and bursting into tears, rushing to twitter and shouting about ableism of spoons and micro aggressions...

[–]emissch 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Talk about a Darren, jesus. How about stay out of our business huh?

[–]Irascible-harpy 36 insightful - 4 fun36 insightful - 3 fun37 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

"They're so hateful!" they say, while still making jokes about a young woman who died from brain cancer over a year ago

[–]YourSister 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you for saying this. The disgusting and callous things I've seen written about an intelligent woman, who spoke her mind, and died tragically, because she wouldn't kowtow to men, ever.

[–]Irascible-harpy 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My dad died of the same type of cancer a couple years before Magdalen. My mother and I cared for him up until three days before his death. I think about his decline. The first time he couldn't recognize one of us. Sitting and eating with him because he feared he was being poisoned and only trusted me to protect him. Watching his body waste away to nothing. The first fall. The day he no longer understood how to use a spoon. His first accident.

My dad was a proud, fiercely independent man and I loved him with every fiber of my being. When Magdalen was diagnosed, my heart broke for her and her loved ones. Fuck cancer. Fuck brain cancer in particular. May those who loved her find peace.

[–]venecia 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Downvotes don't exist here, so come on over and tell us just why you're obsessed with us!

To those who found us because they oh-so-helpfully told you the website on which to find us, welcome! Stay awhile and see if the hateful TERFs you've heard so much about are that bad.

[–]Irascible-harpy 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Mod here. No, do not do that. We will remove your comments. This is not a debate subreddit and we can remove posts based on Rule 4 of Saidit's terms. XD

[–]venecia 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Haha aw man

[–]Thatstealthygal 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What is that revolting flair????

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 43 insightful - 1 fun43 insightful - 0 fun44 insightful - 1 fun -  (48 children)

I still don’t understand why GC was banned from reddit, I thought people did a good job with being respectful of the rules and trying to avoid using offensive language against trans individuals. From what I’ve read many people were accepting of trans people, just fed up with the whole “you’re transphobic because I said so!” rhetoric if someone disagreed with them. It’s even more ridiculous that they are looking for drama.They have nothing better to do like learn a skill or something?? We’ve finally found a place of our own to hang out at, and they’re trying to ruin this place too??

Edit: I want to mention that I’m somewhat new. I found GC at reddit a few weeks ago before it was banned after trying to find a place that also wasn’t buying the whole “if you don’t have sex with me you’re a TERF” logic. I’m glad I found this place, and FWIW I don’t believe most of those people pushing that rhetoric are truly trans. I’ve met a lot of trans people in real life and have never come across that ideology. The trans people I have met were so incredibly respectful and nice, that I doubt the non-passing pre opt trans people online are truly who they say they are. I bet they’re people trying to find a lesbian to manipulate and guilt fuck. I remember reading a comment by someone who said that these kinds of people aren’t actually trans but people who have Cluster B personality disorders/Autogynephilia(don’t know how it’s spelled), and in turn try to manipulate others into doing what they want.

[–]Lizzythelezzo 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've never met a trans person without Cluster B traits, even the ones who aren't AGP and have bodily dysphoria. Conditions like anorexia, eating disorders, body dysmorphia and gender dysphoria are very common in Cluster B people.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Transgestapo mods deliberately attacked us under the guise of supporting BLM.

[–]PurpleAmathea 41 insightful - 2 fun41 insightful - 1 fun42 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I mean they also banned r/pregnancy and took over r/pcos.

The answer why all of this has happened isn't "because we were mean" it's "because they hate women"

[–]GConly 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

took over r/pcos.

You should have a look at the stickied thread about inclusive language. The mods are not getting a lot of love about it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PCOS/comments/hmlhjc/rpcos_is_an_inclusive_community/

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The mods don’t care- now they can “ban the TERFS!” by tagging and harassing any woman who speaks out.

[–]GConly 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just got banned. Lol.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn’t see these on the banned lists by reddit. I don’t see how those are in the same boat as Braincels, Pizzagate, or Shoplifting. It makes no sense. No braincels fo sho

[–]RestingWitchface 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They banned r/pregnancy?! Why?

[–]Irascible-harpy 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not banned, private.

[–]venecia 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You're right about r/pcos, but r/pregnancy says the following:

You must be invited to visit this community r/Pregnancy

Congratulations and good luck! /r/pregnancy has moved to /r/babybumps, please join us there. :)

The moderators of this subreddit have set it to private. You must be a moderator or approved user to visit.

[–]PurpleAmathea 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My understanding from the screenshots I saw on tumblr was that the closing to private of r/pregnancy and redirect to babybumps happened in the past few days because of tra targeting

[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They also feel women shouldn’t be allowed to talk about wombs because they don’t have one. I saw quite a few posts about their believing that womb transplants will be perfected someday and then they will be real women.

Except for that pesky socialization as men part.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn’t see it in the list reddit has for banned subs. Screenshots?

[–]PurpleAmathea 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

They can franken-surgerize their bodies to hell and back, they'll still have XY stamped on every cell of their body they didn't take from a woman.

[–]Susiesmum 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

"I doubt the non-passing pre opt trans people online are truly who they say they are."

Anyone who says that they are transgender IS transgender. There are no "real" transwomen. Those with personality disorders and fetishes are just as much transgender as the others.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

What I’m saying is when it comes to the internet you never really know if a person is who they say they ARE; here are links of course I’m sure there are more cases, but these were the top ones to pop up: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/lesterfeder/how-an-online-love-affair-ended-with-a-trans-man-convicted-o Here’s another one: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/554057/

What do you mean by:

Those with personality disorders and fetishes are just as much transgender as the others.

Here is a link: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCriticalGuys/comments/hhcs34/autogynephilic_male_here_big_rant_about_denial_of/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

about a man who admits to having Autogynephilia and posts his story on GenderCriticalGuys, acknowledges that people with this fetish are abusing woman by claiming to be trans when they are not, and states that he himself does not wish to be a woman but enjoys cross dressing for sexual pleasures. How is that transgender? Links? Screenshots? Where is this information coming from?

[–]MarkTwainiac 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You need to look into the work of people who've been studying TIMs for many decades: Janice Raymond, Ray Blanchard, Anne Lawrence (who is AGP trans himself), Michael Bailey, for starters - and also look at what TIMs themselves say on trans websites and books like Chu's "Females." Historically, the vast majority of "real transwomen" - 75% - have always been AGP het males whose main motivation in going trans is their own sexual pleasure and narcissism. Today, the percentage is probably upwards of 80%. But nowadays, even the TIMs who are attracted to other men tend to be just as fetishistic and motivated by AGP and narcissism as the classic het AGPs are.

Also, TIMs don't have to be physically and sexually abusive to girls and women to be a real threat to girls and women's rights. AFAIK, CeCe Telfer, Andraya Yearwood, Terry Miller, June Eastwood and the rest of them haven't raped, assaulted or threatened violence against women. But since they decided to horn in on girls and women's sports they've cleaned up in women's athletics, taking many medals, records, awards, titles and opportunities for advancement and further education away from girls and women.

Males invading female spaces like public loos, changing rooms, lockers and showers, rape refuges, homeless and domestic violence shelters, prison, hospital wards, support groups, counseling programs etc don't need to physically assault or intentionally menace girls and women to deny girls and women our privacy, dignity and peace of mind and to make us feel uncomfortable using those facilities and programs.

It doesn't matter if the TIMs you know are a decent sort - female spaces are not yours to give away, and the consent and feelings of other female people are not yours to wave away either. In places where girls and women are undressed and vulnerable, we should not have to be dealing with males regardless of how they identify or dress. Full stop.

I know many lovely males - have given birth to some, in fact - but I still don't want myself or any other girl or woman to have to get undressed in their presence and under their gaze, or to be forced to get sex assault counseling or intimate care from a male when she'd prefer a female. Nor do I think it's fair for girls or women to be forced to see men's dicks in female spaces either.

Men think that by calling themselves women and their cocks "lady dicks" and getting lots of plastic surgery and adopting offensive, regressive, superficial sex stereotypes that they acquire some sort of "passing privilege" that automatically gives them the right to steamroller over girls and women and insert themselves in any female space they want to barge into. They think that if they believe themselves to have "passing privilege," it means all girls and women worldwide no longer have a right to say no to them and to set boundaries. It's daft that you seem to agree.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You need to look into the work of people who've been studying TIMs for many decades: Janice Raymond, Ray Blanchard, Anne Lawrence (who is AGP trans himself), Michael Bailey, for starters - and also look at what TIMs themselves say on trans websites and books like Chu's "Females."

Finally, someone adding references. I did say I was pretty new to the GC community. I’ll look into this thanks.

Historically, the vast majority of "real transwomen" - 75% - have always been AGP het males whose main motivation in going trans is their own sexual pleasure and narcissism. Today, the percentage is probably upwards of 80%. But nowadays, even the TIMs who are attracted to other men tend to be just as fetishistic and motivated by AGP and narcissism as the classic het AGPs are.

I can’t answer this because this is pretty new to me and I need to do some research. Links would be much appreciated though.

Also, TIMs don't have to be physically and sexually abusive to girls and women to be a real threat to girls and women's rights.

I agree with this, as this logic also applies to many different people too.

AFAIK, CeCe Telfer, Andraya Yearwood, Terry Miller, June Eastwood and the rest of them haven't raped, assaulted or threatened violence against women. But since they decided to horn in on girls and women's sports they've cleaned up in women's athletics, taking many medals, records, awards, titles and opportunities for advancement and further education away from girls and women.

I’ve heard about this. I’m not sure what to say though, I will need to look more into this and get back to you.

Males invading female spaces like public loos, changing rooms, lockers and showers, rape refuges, homeless and domestic violence shelters, prison, hospital wards, support groups, counseling programs etc don't need to physically assault or intentionally menace girls and women to deny girls and women our privacy, dignity and peace of mind and to make us feel uncomfortable using those facilities and programs.

I agree with this. As I’m sure many men, even if they try to deny it, agree with this too as has been shown in hate crimes against gay men/bi men/trans woman. It has been well documented that many men have killed gay men/bi men/trans woman just for even glancing their way, which shows that men do understand the uncomfortable feelings of unwanted contact in any form. It’s such a double standard, however, because when it comes to women they dismiss the feelings of women as being “too sensitive,” or anything else that has to do with a being a woman.

It doesn't matter if the TIMs you know are a decent sort - female spaces are not yours to give away,

Can you quote me? Where did I say that female spaces were mine to give away?

and the consent and feelings of other female people are not yours to wave away either.

Can you quote me? Where did I say that the consent and feelings of other people are mine to give away?

In places where girls and women are undressed and vulnerable, we should not have to be dealing with males regardless of how they identify or dress. Full stop.

I agree with this

I know many lovely males - have given birth to some, in fact - but I still don't want myself or any other girl or woman to have to get undressed in their presence and under their gaze, or to be forced to get sex assault counseling or intimate care from a male when she'd prefer a female. Nor do I think it's fair for girls or women to be forced to see men's dicks in female spaces either.

Yup, I agree with this

Men think that by calling themselves women and their cocks "lady dicks" and getting lots of plastic surgery and adopting offensive, regressive, superficial sex stereotypes that they acquire some sort of "passing privilege" that automatically gives them the right to steamroller over girls and women and insert themselves in any female space they want to barge into.

So, in the entirety of our history, throughout all the cultures in the entire world, when have some men not tried to acquire some sort of “passing privilege that automatically gives them the right to steamroller over girls and women and insert themselves in any female space they want to barge into.”? Because I can guarantee you I can find at least one example in all cultures where some men haven’t tried to do this. In short, I agree.

They think that if they believe themselves to have "passing privilege," it means all girls and women worldwide no longer have a right to say no to them and to set boundaries.

Tell me something I don’t know

It's daft that you seem to agree.

That I seem to agree...to? I have no idea what you mean or are trying to say. What makes me “daft”?

[–]Susiesmum 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

You seem to believe that "real" transwomen are harmless little angels who need to be protected. All it takes for someone to be recognised as transgender is that they say " I am a woman" or a man, or non-binary or whatever. Perversts like Stefonknee Wolscht and Jessica Yaniv, predators like Karen White, nutcases like Alex Drummond are all counted as transgender in the eyes of the law. You need to find out what you're defending before you start demanding we spoonfeed you.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Sure, fine, if you want to paint it that way then okay; yes, from my experience, and other people I have talked to, real trans women are harmless little angles who need to be protected as is the case with “cis” women, “cis” men, and any other person that exists. I’m not saying “all,” that’s generalizing which is where this next part comes into play - What’s Not okay is then ignoring the bad regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity that a person identifies with, which is why I appreciate that GC exists because it lets people see how women are being treated by these “trans individuals,” who, like I said, Do Not believe are really trans women but rather people pretending to be trans to have a “get-out-of-jail-free-card” to assault woman. Are you kidding me, anyone can be good or bad, trans women included. I also know about the Karen White case along with several other TiM’s who have assaulted other women in prisons and even a 12 year old girl in a girls bathroom and that is NOT Okay. Like I said before, I do not believe these people are real trans people but rather people trying to jump on the trans bandwagon to have an excuse to assault women and girls, which is NOT Okay.

An Example of why I believe that people are jumping on the trans bandwagon to use a minority card to get away with assaulting/harassing/stalking women: https://www.saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/58ai/saidit_peak_trans_i_please_continue_to_share_your/

A summary of one:

tl;dr: GNC man doesn’t like that I won’t date him, proceeds to insert himself into every aspect of my life including claiming to be a TIM to get assigned to my female-only dorm 6000 miles from home (It didn’t work). S never told anyone their preferred name or pronouns (now she/her) and did nothing to live “as a female” (whatever that means), yet would get incredibly angry when he was misgendered/misnamed. We were all somehow meant to magically know. After returning from Japan, S has gone back to identifying as GNC and using they/them pronouns.

THIS is NOT Okay. An example of someone CLAIMING to be trans when they are not. I’ve met plenty of trans people and I’ve noticed that the ones in real life, and actually TRY to PASS, are way friendlier, nicer and much better people than the ones who don’t try to pass, are normally online, and are always spewing the “you’re a transphobic because you won’t suck my dick/because I say so!” Have you ever noticed that the REAL trans women are even mocked and called truscum by the non passing trans people? Almost all of the posts on GC are about the NON-Passing trans people. I appreciate that this sub exists because we can expose this kind of shit-excuse-attempt of “fake trans” people trying to take advantage of “being a minority” to assault women, which is NOT okay.

[–]StupidHappyPancakes 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What they are trying to explain to you is that trans advocacy has gone so far that we don't really have the OPTION of supporting SOME trans people. The ultimate goal being pushed now is for self-ID, which means that even just some ordinary dude who makes ZERO effort to transition or look "female" is supposed to be just as "valid" as the old school transsexuals who were largely effeminate gay men who just wanted to blend in. The people who replied to you were saying that your comment was transphobic because according to current trans ideology, ANY gatekeeping at all is considered transphobic. They were trying to explain to you that there's not currently any way for us to support the group that's "nice" without also allowing those with fetishes and personality disorders the same support.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OKAY

[–]Susiesmum 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

What you're saying here is really transphobic. It's not your place to decide whether or not someone's gender identity is genuine or not - being a pervert or a predator is no barrier to being transgender. The majority of transwomen are heterosexual males who have no intention of altering their bodies in order to "pass". Haven't you heard of the female penis?

The reason transgenderism is so destructive is that it prioritises the feelings in someone's head over material reality. Those abusive "fake trans" you're talking about are just as much transwomen as the fully transitioned post-op transsexuals that you're defending.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What you're saying here is really transphobic. It's not your place to decide whether or not someone's gender identity is genuine or not

It’s pretty ignorant to accuse someone of being “transphobic” and not add links/quotes to what was considered transphobic and not add links/references to definitions of some sort to show that what the person said was transphobic.

being a pervert or a predator is no barrier to being transgender.

Where did I say that being a pervert or predator was a barrier to being transgender? Can you quote me?

The majority of transwomen are heterosexual males who have no intention of altering their bodies in order to "pass". Haven't you heard of the female penis?

Saying this isn’t transphobic? How do you know that the majority of trans women are heterosexual males. Any links?

The reason transgenderism is so destructive is that

I’m not so sure about transgenderism itself being destructive as I need to do more research before I comment on this.

it prioritises the feelings in someone's head over material reality.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean, if you could elaborate a little more that would help; so is a women who feels uncomfortable when a male watches her change destructive? The woman’s feeling is valid, and she should not have to endure this.

Those abusive "fake trans" you're talking about are just as much transwomen as the fully transitioned post-op transsexuals that you're defending.

No, as I said before, I was making a point that you never know who a person says they are on the internet. I could say I’m Barack Obama, and you couldn’t prove otherwise. Another example is you, how do I know that your Susie’s mom? You could be Bryan’s mom. You could be Sally’s mom. You could be a man for all I know. You could be a trans man or trans woman or a teenager and I would never know

[–]tuesday 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Stonewall's definition of who is trans, is "anybody who says they are".

Their tagline is "acceptance without exception".

I’m not so sure about transgenderism itself being destructive as I need to do more research before I comment on this.

it prioritises the feelings in someone's head over material reality.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean, if you could elaborate a little more that would help

According to transwomen, the definition of "woman" is just whatever a man thinks it is, and as far as he's concerned, it is his opinion and his alone which matters. According to him, women do not have the right to define ourselves. It doesn't matter if we refer to logic, common sense, or mention biology or hey, actual reality when defining the concept of "woman AKA adult human female". Au contraire, the term "woman" is defined according to the oh so more important sexist sterotypes which exist in a man's head, cos he's in charge of us.

It’s pretty ignorant to accuse someone of being “transphobic” and not add links/quotes to what was considered transphobic and not add links/references to definitions of some sort to show that what the person said was transphobic.

You don't seem to realize how you're coming across. Very very mansplainy and expert authority on a subject you clearly know nothing about. Think about how you'd reaction to someone like that. Always remember, women aren't your personal secretary, google is your friend. The mumsnet link is particularly good for newbs.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=stonewall+definition+who+is+transgender&ia=web

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stonewall's definition of who is trans, is "anybody who says they are".

Okay

Their tagline is "acceptance without exception".

Great

I’m not so sure about transgenderism itself being destructive as I need to do more research before I comment on this.

it prioritises the feelings in someone's head over material reality.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean, if you could elaborate a little more that would help

According to transwomen, the definition of "woman" is just whatever a man thinks it is, and as far as he's concerned, it is his opinion and his alone which matters.

What trans woman said this?

According to him, women do not have the right to define ourselves. It doesn't matter if we refer to logic, common sense, or mention biology or hey, actual reality when defining the concept of "woman AKA adult human female". Au contraire, the term "woman" is defined according to the oh so more important sexist sterotypes which exist in a man's head, cos he's in charge of us.

It’s pretty ignorant to accuse someone of being “transphobic” and not add links/quotes to what was considered transphobic and not add links/references to definitions of some sort to show that what the person said was transphobic.

You don't seem to realize how you're coming across. Very very mansplainy and expert authority on a subject you clearly know nothing about.

So, I mentioned a couple of times that I recently found GC and that I am pretty new to the whole thing which is why I have been asking for references and links.

What was it exactly that I said that made me sound “mansplainy” or like I was an “expert”?

I did not claim to know more than anyone else, but rather asked for links /references so I could Know more.

Think about how you'd reaction to someone like that. Always remember, women aren't your personal secretary, google is your friend. The mumsnet link is particularly good for newbs. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=stonewall+definition+who+is+transgender&ia=web https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Where did I say that women were my personal secretary? For asking for links and references so I could learn more? Again, I never said I was an “expert.” I said I was new to the community. I’m surprised that people would even be bothered or irritated to share information/correct others. You would think people would be more than happy to share information and try to help newcomers, at least that’s what I’ve noticed from people who actually know what they are talking about. People who can’t answer questions tend to try and antagonize others due to their own lack of knowledge and embarrassment, kind of like what politicians do - ad hominem attacks.

[–]Susiesmum 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To be honest, I'm starting to think you're a troll. You don't seem to be aware of anything that is actually happening. Go and do some research and stop demanding people spoonfeed you information.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To be honest, I'm starting to think you're a troll. You don't seem to be aware of anything that is actually happening.

Right, so I’ve mentioned in my other posts that I recently found GC and that I Am new to the community.

I’m surprised that people would even be bothered or irritated to share information/correct others. You would think people would be more than happy to share information and try to help newcomers, at least that’s what I’ve noticed from people who actually know what they are talking about. People who can’t answer questions tend to try and antagonize others due to their own lack of knowledge and embarrassment, kind of like what politicians do - ad hominem attacks.

Go and do some research

Is me asking for links/references not a start in trying to do research?

and stop demanding people spoonfeed you information.

How is asking for links/references demanding to be spoonfed?

[–]Thatstealthygal 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's pretty transphobic to say a self-described trans person isn't really trans just because they don't fit the victim mould.

If we must believe transwomen, then yes we must accept Jessica Yaniv and Karen White.

Or if these people don't count then resume gatekeeping, because women and girls are victims of these people abusing.self-ID.

You can't have both unless you're willing to throw females under the bus.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's pretty transphobic to say a self-described trans person isn't really trans

It’s pretty ignorant to accuse someone of being “transphobic” and not add links/quotes to what was considered transphobic and not add links/references to definitions of some sort to show that what the person said was transphobic.

just because they don't fit the victim mould

Where did I say this? Can you quote my text?

If we must believe transwomen, then yes we must accept Jessica Yaniv and Karen White.

Where did I say I did not believe trans women, can you add a quote from me?

Or if these people don't count then resume gatekeeping, because women and girls are victims of these people abusing.self-ID.

I have no idea what you are going on about with the whole self-id talk.

You can't have both unless you're willing to throw females under the bus.

Again, I have no idea why you’re bringing this up. If you can quote me, then elaborate, that would actually help

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I, Myself, even brought up the fact that there are trans people who have raped other women in women only spaces during an LGBT counseling group I was in during college. However, I was hushed off by the majority with people denying this is the case - to my surprise of course because you can find rape cases just by googling. Needless to say I decided to quit going to the group because I disagreed with them, as there are cases of trans women raping women in women on spaces, HOWEVER, I Do Not Believe these women are really trans women and only using trans women as a guise to assault other women. From my experience, the trans women that ACTUALLY try to pass are the ones that would never even try to do such a thing/ are much more respectful.

[–]WinoRhino 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

This is transphobic. If you believe in self-ID then you cannot say, "anyone who identifies as a woman is a woman....oh, except for this one person here...." If they say they are trans, they ARE trans, even if they did something terrible. That is what you get with self-ID. Pick a lane.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

This is transphobic.

It’s pretty ignorant to accuse someone of being “transphobic” and not add links/quotes to what was considered transphobic and not add links/references to definitions of some sort to show that what the person said was transphobic.

If you believe in self-ID then you cannot say, "anyone who identifies as a woman is a woman....oh, except for this one person here...."

Can you quote me? Where did I say I did/didn’t believe in self-id?

If they say they are trans, they ARE trans, even if they did something terrible.

I have NO idea what you are going on about. Can you quote me?

That is what you get with self-ID. Pick a lane.

Again, can you quote me because I have no idea what you’re talking about otherwise.

[–]WinoRhino 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

And I quote

HOWEVER, I Do Not Believe these women are really trans women and only using trans women as a guise to assault other women

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Right. So what are you trying to prove by showing me this because there was more to what you said.

This is transphobic.

It’s pretty ignorant to accuse someone of being “transphobic” and not add links/quotes to what was considered transphobic and not add links/references to definitions of some sort to show that what the person said was transphobic.

If you believe in self-ID then you cannot say, "anyone who identifies as a woman is a woman....oh, except for this one person here...."

Can you quote me? Where did I say I did/didn’t believe in self-id?

If they say they are trans, they ARE trans, even if they did something terrible.

I have NO idea what you are going on about. Can you quote me?

That is what you get with self-ID. Pick a lane.

Again, can you quote me because I have no idea what you’re talking about otherwise.

Which part are you trying to explain?

[–]Thatstealthygal 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Same. It was considered horribly viciously transphobic because ... some women said transwomen were men, I think. That's about as bad as it got. No use of horrible slurs (I guess some of them don't like TIM and TIF though), no wishing harm on anyone....

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It was considered horribly viciously transphobic

Is there a link, or something, that states why GC was banned, where they stated this?

[–]Thatstealthygal 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't know but that's what people said about it.

I looked and looked but was clearly viewing a different GC than they were.

[–]pink_lioness 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think this is evidence it's more about control than them being offended. It could also explain why they keep intruding on women's health subs that have nothing to do with them.

[–]crodishr/gc and Ovarit refugee 52 insightful - 12 fun52 insightful - 11 fun53 insightful - 12 fun -  (7 children)

ffs we're already off reddit like you wanted, just enjoy jerking each other off until reddit is full of men and fuck off

[–]Hard_headed_woman 23 insightful - 5 fun23 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

They're like abusive men who will stop at nothing to silence their partners. Oh, wait...they are abusive men.

[–]WhyDoesHeDoThat 47 insightful - 2 fun47 insightful - 1 fun48 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

They demand total obedience. Women walking around having her own toughts and her life not revolving around serving men and his gender identity sends them into a tailspin.

[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

They’re obsessed with forcing Us women to revolve our lives around their depraved fantasies. Even our dirty tampons aren’t safe from their manicured clutches.

[–]WhyDoesHeDoThat 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Because transgenderism is a violent misogynistic ideology invented by men to try to control women. All male bullshit men come up with has to do with controlling women, what they do and what they think. There is no male ideology that encourages women to go against men or to be able to live free without men. There's no male ideology that encourages men to listen to women. In transgenderism this is very apparent since men are the ultimate authority on what a woman is and women are supposed to nod and accept everything the man says and any woman who doesn't agree with the man is evil.

Their biggest horror is women thinking and discussing things on their own without men there to bombard them with male bullshit and tell them how everything they say is wrong, mean and evil. Men are desperate to steer them in the direction of men and male thought patterns.

These men are entitled AS FUCK. They not only want our spaces but also our bodies and thoughts.

[–]yishengqingwa666 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's because men are parasites off of women, they always have been. We have been groomed from birth to be hosts for misogynist parasites.

[–]fuckingsealions 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

This dog doesn't sit up and beg, she bites. 😉

[–]BarleySammich 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My sentiments exactly.

[–]LoganBlade 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Notice the flair. Typical Man, celebrating the death of a political rival.

[–]Irascible-harpy 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A political rival, haha. You mean a woman with very little real power who used a cheap camera and spoke out about what she believed? It's not like Magdalen was an authority. She was a woman with a webcam and he's celebrating her tragically premature death over a year later.

[–]1352DogwoodAvenue 24 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

They blew their perfect chance to completely scrub GC talk from reddit. They could have all pretended we disappeared like wayward dandelions fluff.

[–]LasagnaRossa 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

They thought that by silencing us we would have started believing that grass is purple

[–]LoganBlade 14 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

they arent smart enough for that

[–][deleted] 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This G cynical sub and AHS—- tons of stalkers and transgestspo thugs.

[–]WhyDoesHeDoThat 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Transgestapo lol that's great

[–]PostmodernJukebox 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

no object permanence yet hmmmm???? cant see us we disappear.....jokes on you!!! ban the sub and now ive joined and im not the only one. cant see us we APPEAR. jerk!!!!

[–]aqrylix 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

[–]raslyana 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is actually hilarious 😂

[–][deleted] 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

That’s funny.

Once they have scrubbed Reddit and Twitter of all women, they are looking for more fertile territory.

[–]materialrealityplz 43 insightful - 8 fun43 insightful - 7 fun44 insightful - 8 fun -  (5 children)

Thanks to them for advertising this place, lmao. :3

[–]venecia 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Right? They outright told any lurkers the name of the website on which to find us!

Welcome lovelies. Stay awhile :)

[–]gparmesan[S] 41 insightful - 4 fun41 insightful - 3 fun42 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

I love how many people on gc said they found it and started their peak journey through all the hate-readers and people trashing it. Streisand effect? Anyone?

[–]RestingWitchface 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I was worried the amount of hate readers would decrease after no longer being on Reddit, but apparently these people still need a hobby so... 😂

[–]fuckingsealions 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I love your user name!!

[–]RestingWitchface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks! :)

[–][deleted] 32 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Well, we are living in their head rent free, huh? They seriously need to get hobbies.

[–]-thedarkhorse- 74 insightful - 8 fun74 insightful - 7 fun75 insightful - 8 fun -  (4 children)

How are they going to cope when the women run and owned site is in full swing?

[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 8 fun18 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

They will lose their shit. It will be wonderful.

[–]gparmesan[S] 44 insightful - 6 fun44 insightful - 5 fun45 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

obsessively stalk us like always. can't be having any wrongthink

[–]womenopausal 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Really looking forward to that....

[–]radikaalirusina 17 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

This is hilarious.

[–]fuckingsealions 57 insightful - 3 fun57 insightful - 2 fun58 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

I have been tweeting about surgeries on teens in the vein of Abigail Shrier's book and so far two people have unfollowed me and made sure to tell me I am transphobic without any discussion of what my actual views are or why. I've decided not to unfollow anyone for now because I don't really give a shit, and one woman spent all morning subtweeting me, which was kind of entertaining. If you're trans anything and you're just living your life, or you're a supporter, fine, I don't actually really care. But this seems to be an extremely touchy topic for some people who I have been tweeting with for over 10 years. Wow. Instant policing and shooshing. Meanwhile my more resilient friends are asking me questions or just ignoring me. Others have come out to me as undercover GC like I used to be.

[–]gparmesan[S] 41 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 0 fun42 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I just finished Abigail Shrier's book yesterday evening. Tore through it and I will be recommending it to many women IRL, even if that means buying them a fresh copy. They can be mad all they want. I would rather have an unpopular opinion right now than sign on to a vast unethical medical experiment (for big profits!) on young women and girls.

[–]fuckingsealions 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That's the part that definitely upset me the most! How can people not see that teen girls are at the bottom of the shitpile? I feel like they're the canaries. Something is affecting them as a group and gee...I think it's society.

I love that Shrier hit so many things head on like AGP and the deal with microsurgery.

I was also interested in the parts about smartphones and self harm. I had to see a specialist for something around 2015 and she noticed my old old scars from my teenage years. She commented that I was "ahead of the curve" and I wondered what she meant until now.

[–]gparmesan[S] 40 insightful - 2 fun40 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Teen girls aren't given the spotlight on this topic, at least not yet. Jazz Jennings is probably the most common name associated with youth transition and the human interest fluff pieces I see are heavily weighted towards tims. I appreciate that the book was so focused on girls struggles and feelings. The crossover with eating disorders and autism should be something we can discuss without being shouted down. How many girls will have to be medicated and operated on so the adults surrounding them feel woke and good?

[–]Thatstealthygal 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Surely anyone aware of Jazz Jennings can see that kid is being exploited regardless of their stance on child transition? If there's something any teen does NOT need it's a reality show in which people focus on their genitals and sexual function for all the world to see. That show has surely backfired and Jazz is the collateral damage.

[–]fuckingsealions 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's so fascinating to me for this craze seems to be a tangled web of internet niches, gay pride (yay, but here comes trans people under that umbrella), and anti bullying rhetoric in schools. These are all good things on their own, but they seem to have been the catalyst, but trans expression seems to only be the symptom.

I wonder what will happen after the backlash. Kids with true lifelong gender dysphoria will probably go back to being ignored. I admire that parents are trying to be supportive, but they're obviously in for a rude awakening.

Girls in my kid's high school are on T now, and many are non binary. I'm not patting myself on the back at all but I've raised my kid to be media skeptical and kind of everything skeptical, heh. We talk about the sucky and good parts of being a woman and she's not transitioning as far as I can tell. I was so disappointed when I encouraged her to GET OUT into the exciting world, and we discovered that none of her friends left their houses and I was negligent for teaching her to ride the city bus, lol.

I am so old I remember when there was a moral panic about even considering giving children antidepressants.

[–]SameOldBS 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm so old I can remember the thing we worried most about with our daughters was getting caught up in thinking it was cool to starve themselves.

[–]fuckingsealions 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! I was in high school in the early 90s and I remember all the girls around me chewing gum at lunch and watching me eat. I was hungry, dammit. I went to a sleep over and everyone took turns weighing themselves. Ugh. I refused. I have been doing it wrong from a young age. 😄

[–]gparmesan[S] 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

oh my god right?? when I was growing up there was huge debate about Ritalin. Now you're the hateful bigot if you don't think it's a good idea to hand out double mastectomies to teenagers. Unreal

[–]slushpilot 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I just finished watching an interview with her and I'm really interested in her book, even though I'm probably aware of everything that's in it... thinking the same that it might be good to share it.

I'll post that interview on here too, it's worth a watch.

[–]fuckingsealions 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's nice because it goes pretty frickin deep, not that you haven't. I liked hearing the parents' stories. It reminded me that not all parents are driving their children to the abattoir--many kids slip away on their own.

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