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[–]radstagdoe 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Big thank you from a newbie

[–]Cindy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

TERFs welcome trans men, with female bodies, into their movement.

Nope. Not all of us. While TIFs are not actively dangerous like TIMs they are still astray, and their very identity is antagonistic to our movement. Two sides of the same coin here. If society accepts TIFs as male, then the TIFs are members of the patriarchy.

[–]CaliforniGinger[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I suppose I should frame it as , "TERFs advocate for trans men, with female bodies," instead of saying they are in our movement?

[–]Cindy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe, but I think it's superfluous. You could argue that we advocate for trans women too. But in both cases that's really stretching the meaning of the word "advocate." At the end of the day, we want everyone to be happy, and also to not attempt to change their gender.