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[–]yousaythosethings 33 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think her messages are largely motivated by peaking the bystanders or at least planting the seed of doubt in their minds. She knows that the indoctrinated TRAs are a hopeless cause and that most people, particularly liberals are only going along with this charade because they have some misconception about what it's really about and think it's some sort of organic civil rights movement.

[–]Feather 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

most people, particularly liberals are only going along with this charade because they have some misconception about what it's really about

Absolutely.

I think most people do actually know it's messed up. If you get someone one-on-one to talk about it, almost all of them (even in liberal circles) will admit that they don't believe a guy who loves his beard and says he's got no dysphoria is a woman. Most people do have sympathy for trans people who physically transition because that's the life they want and then they leave everyone else alone. I also have sympathy for that predicament.

I used to think, "Well yeah, it makes sense that someone who looks just like a woman would want to be in the women's restroom. It would be bizarre for them to be in the men's restroom and they wouldn't even be bothering anyone in the women's restroom if they really look like a woman. Who would even know the difference?"

But then I realized what's actually going on.

And I also realized that these "I want to be in women's spaces" types really do need it to be WOMEN'S spaces. They would not at all be content even if every location had a third, sex-neutral restroom. I'd be perfectly fine with it if a location had a women's restroom, a men's restroom, and then a sex-neutral restroom. Hell, I'd use the sex-neutral bathroom when the line for the women's restroom was too long (which it often is). But no. They want the WOMEN'S restroom. I also don't see any issue with single-occupant restrooms being sex-neutral since there's only one person in them at a time. But that would not suffice for them either.

Ugh.

[–]PostmodernJukebox 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

only tangentially related but i had to use a mens room once (single user) and the urinal was placed just so that if i had leaned forwards on the toilet i could have drank from it like a fountain. it was clean (thank GOD) but it was too stupid to ignore. whose design choice was that??? why do men have so few stalls in the multi-user bathrooms??? public buildings should have sensible bathrooms. i was at a restaurant a different time where the bathroom was literally a converted closet that was hardly big enough for the door to avoid hitting the fixtures. asinine!

[–]windrunner 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

having a third sex-neutral restroom was the reasonable alternative many people speak about but to them and their ideology it's not ideal because, really, that would just reinforce the idea that they are not really women (wich they aren't, they're trans women). that's why they forcefully want to be included in the women restrooms, because TWAW right??? So why are the unreasonable period-havers not immediately accepting this? How terf of them. Why is it always women who have to conform and make spaces for men exigences? Also, single occupant restrooms is not what they want. They want the womens restrooms. And to win that theyll appropriate anything female related and call names and make violent threats and also victimize themselves.