Pretty much 99.9% of people are "TERFS"

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[–]Thatstealthygal 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Spending time around GC feminists has made me less actively supportive than I used to be, but I still fully support transidentified people in living their lives without judgment or prejudice. I use preferred pronouns. My primary TERF crime is in seeing transwomen as transwomen; they are a special category of person, not the same as me, not subject to the same biological limitations and strengths, not fully affected by sex-based inequities, and with their own problems and issues that I can't understand. We are different, and we should be allowed to acknowledge that.

[–]OrangeFirefly 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The vast majority of gc people want trans people to live free from prejudice. It is right that someone cannot lose their job for being trans (except in very rare circumstances where sex matters to the job). Trans people have the absolute right to live in safety. Their human rights should of course be protected. It is a myth that "terfs" object to any of those things. It is also a (bizarre) myth that GC people are denying trans people's "right to exist".

But - as you are aware, there are conflicts between women's rights and trans rights. I agree that transwomen are transwomen (not women). I don't want to change alongside a transwoman in a communal changing room at my local gym. I feel sorry for 12-year-old girls trying to deal with their periods for the first time in bathrooms that include natal males. I don't want to see women losing out on medals and scholarships to biological males who retain the advantages of male puberty. I don't want crime statistics to be manipulated to show that a rising number of females are now paedophiles and rapists.

I have concerns that the umbrella of 'transgenderism' is very broad and includes cross-dressers and men with autogynephilia (agp) as well as those with gender dysphoria. I know that many try to deny the existence of agp, but it exists and certain transwomen even admit to having it (Debbie Hayton for one).

As for preferred pronouns - well, let's be honest. It is a polite fiction we engage in so as to make life just a little bit easier for the person with gender dysphoria. It's the nice thing to do. However, I do believe this ought to be a choice. I am not in favour of compelled speech.

[–]SameOldBS 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I distinguish between transsexuals and transwomen. I have absolutely no problem with transsexual women who have had surgery and hormones and legally changed their gender being in communal changing rooms or wherever, though I would probably draw the line at them competing in women's sports. I have a massive problem with self ID and intact trans-identified males being in our spaces eg. autogynephiles.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not okay with anyone pretending to be something they're not, backed up by the government. These are all still men. The honest ones will admit it, too.