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[–]Barber_Acrobatic 45 insightful - 2 fun45 insightful - 1 fun46 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

From an outsiders perspective it does seem as if the black community has done a much better job at not buying into this sort of thing. Prime example being the (rightful) shutting down of Rachel Dozeal.

I'd be interested to know your thoughts in why you think this is? From my perspective I'd wager a lot of it has to do with a white sensitivity on being on 'the wrong side of history' again and so passivity and open acceptance has overwhelmed all sense of reason.

That said, while it may have originally come from a good place (I'm personally doubtful of this but open to other perspectives) its deeply concerning to see how this over correction is ruling out all sensible and nuanced and instead reducing us to having to have frankly ridiculous arguments over whether a man with a beard and a week of oestrogen under his belt is somehow magically a woman.

[–]pennyheax 37 insightful - 2 fun37 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not the OP but I reckon it has to do with black women being one of the most marginalized groups, silenced in the media, and more likely to be victims of male violence. So when TRAs whip out their oppression card, it's met with a collective "so?" I can't recall a single mainstream movement centered exclusively on the issues that black women face, but now we got black trans lives matter.

All that, and highly tuned sensors for white bullshit.

[–]Complicated-Spirit 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have to wonder if it’s why TRAs are trying to shift BLM towards “Black Trans Lives”. First it was black men, now it’s Black Trans Lives (and let’s be honest with ourselves, that means black TIMs). It’s black TIMs and white people working in tandem: TIMs, because all social movements must be shifted to focus on them; white people, because focusing on TIP at the expense of actual women is kind of their thing, and also because removing the focus from black women and putting it on black TIM - that is, taking it from a person they will encounter regularly to a person they will hardly encounter, if at all, and can thus think of in practically abstract, mythical terms - allows them to maintain their internalized misogyny and racism against black women while at the same time patting themselves on the back for being so damn progressive and on the right side of history.

Basically, “progressive liberal” white people are all over BLM shifting to Black Trans Lives because they don’t perceive black TIP as posing a threat to them. Black TIP are people that exist only just barely beyond a hypothetical idea; black women, on the other hand, are seen and encountered daily. They’ll never admit it, but those self-righteous libfem white people DO find those black women a threat, seemingly so omnipresent and reminding them of the racism they feel brewing inside whenever they see one, so they shift their focus away from black women and towards something they feel “safer” about, since what they’re throwing their support behind has a near-zero percent chance of encroaching on their spaces.

[–]respectmyidentity 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Michael Jackson's niece was stabbed by a trans wo(man) in Vegas. I hope the Black community is up in arms on Twitter.