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[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Welcome to the Great Tectonic Shift. I think John McWhorter (linguist at Columbia, I'm a fan of his podcasts) said it best when he described himself as a "cranky classic liberal" who now finds himself a centrist-verging-on-conservative, because the whole terrain shifted underneath him. I'm GenX and pretty staunchly independent, but I've experienced a similar sensation -- my basic ethos is the same, but I'm labeled very differently now by detractors.

I've been trying to put together some kind of mental narrative around how all of this changed so suddenly . . . some r/GC users helped fill in the blanks recently. Mini data-set:

  • Social media goes mainstream, 2008-ish

  • Obergefell v. Hodges (LGB marriage equality), 2015

  • Caitlyn Jenner comes out as trans, 2015

There seems to be a general feeling that 2015 (in the US) was the year that TRA and ideological purity really leapt to the fore in media and liberal online spaces. The alarming part, as you mention, is that critical thinking seems to have simultaneously gone down the shitter, and there's this naive sense that "only the Right can be authoritarian" (Stalin much?) and other baseless weirdness.

I'm hoping it's mostly a novel combination of social media saturation and righteous idealism. But as it's affecting health policy, research, and now (in a very visible way) women's rights and free speech and publishing and God knows what else, screw it.

[–]GenderCriticalOnly 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Not to go too ridiculous, but years ago back in the Harry Potter fandom we used to discuss whether you could have a Hufflepuff dystopia (imagining Voldemort being sorted into the different houses and still rising to power was very much the thing at the time), and what that would look like. A lot of people seemed to have the idea that you couldn’t have one: that values of equality and fairness and hard work and loyalty somehow couldn’t be corrupted this way. The power of friendship and niceness, right?

I not only disagreed, I was fairly sure it would be the hardest dystopia to fight against, and the most completely intrusive. If people value knowledge and reason, you can reason with them and find facts. If people value courage, you can impress them by standing up for something. If people value power and influence, you can convince them by appealing to their self-interest.

[–]Takseen 13 insightful - 7 fun13 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

I always imagine Dolores Umbridge forcing Harry Potter to write "transwomen are women" instead of "I must not tell lies". Got that same authoritarian mantra feeling to it.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Brilliant! Wouldn't have thought of that, but yeah -- what better place to breed extremism than a group with a code of fairness, equality, hard work, loyalty? That's actually really creepy and plausible.