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[–]vitunrotta 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wow. Thank you so much for sharing. For the first time (perhaps ever?) I think I can quite sincerely say "I know how that feels." Your story reminds me a lot of my older sister's story. I myself am the youngest in our family and in many ways had it easier growing up - probably because by the time I was a teenager, my depressed mother (with other mental issues) didn't have the energy nor the interest to care too much what sinful things I was doing, heh. Nevertheless all of us kids (5 in total) suffered one way or another. I guess my eldest brother is the only one who felt like he was wanted and has had a pretty unproblematic life.

My parents are members of lestadianism (very small movement within the Christian church - like a sect). Recently a part of this group officially "departed" from the church entirely as it was too open-minded in their opinion. So yeah, now that part is kind of like a cult.

In my case it was my mother who was the "head" of the household, and let me tell you... Crazy religious AND mentally ill is a pretty fucked up combo. Also, being a woman and religious like that pretty much makes you a woman-hating woman. In order to survive mentally (and not thrive, literally just survive) you kind of have to internalize all that misogyny.

My father was quite absent but used to be the more liberal one. I enjoyed spending time with him in my early teens. We'd play Tomb Raider together, and I even watched some Queer Eye with him. Lo and behold, he has since had a massive change of heart. By that I mean a literal heart attack first - which I think made him question his beliefs and turned him into an ultra conservative religious nutter (sorry if that sounds insensitive but alas... it's true).

I guess seeing feminism turn into a very cult-like movement almost made me peak out of feminism entirely at some point. Their shaming and cancelling, their lingo, their general shit attitude towards anyone who dared to disagree even in the slightest... Libfems definitely feel like a religious cult nowarays. I was not aware there were other people like me, who questioned things and refused to just blindly accept everything. I certainly have a strong aversion towards this kind of "sheeple" behaviour - thanks to my religious upbringing and dysfunctional family. I simply cannot stand people who demand you to just shut up and swallow all the shit. I'm seeing SO MUCH of that in this gender ideology specifically. It makes my blood boil. Old memories come rushing back.

So, in a way - oddly enough - my horrible experiences in a misogynist religious sect have allowed me to see things more clearly and not shy away from criticizing things that seem odd or wrong.

[–]CaliforniGinger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow, I looked it up and that definitely is a high demand religion to grow up in! There's a kind of weird pride in surviving that and coming out the other side, isn't there?

Sadly, heart attacks and heart procedures almost always result in personality changes and I've noticed from the ones I observe it usually makes them super conservative and even hateful. I've seen it happen multiple times and it's even been studied. At least in that sense he doesn't deserve 100% blame, as it is a physiological thing happening to his body and brain, but still...

Libfems definitely feel like a religious cult nowadays. I was not aware there were other people like me, who questioned things and refused to just blindly accept everything.

Yeah, those people are few and far between in this world, especially now. Christopher Hitchens was still a live when I was questioning my religion and I LOVED watching him debate, it was so refreshing to see someone cheerfully interact with all different kinds of people and give the strongest possible argument for his side without strawmanning (much) the other side.

I think a lot of people become more vulnerable to cults after being in one, but some of us become way less so. Sounds like neither of us wants to ever be stuck like that again!