Reddit banning GC caused me to Peak

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[–]LustyTweed 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I'm a straight person but I think I was peaked by the way TIMs have taken over LGB(++++) spaces. They say that gender is a social construct. But then they say that the "only people who care about distinguishing sex from gender are transphobes". How can you have it both ways? Gender is a social construct literally means sex isn't gender, and that your sex is not important to your gender expression. How can you spread a message of gender being not sex, without distinguishing the two in any way? Either it's a logical fallacy, or I am a lot more stupid than I thought I was. And every "inclusive" space has to support this now or it's transphobic. Men don't have an issue though (as usual), if they don't want to have sex with a vagina they don't. But lesbians who don't want to have sex with a penis? They get death threats. I can't with that.

[–]Pixie_Waifu 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm straight too, and peaked the same way. When I heard they were pushing feminine (gay) boys to become girls and terms like "cis" lesbian, I thought it was too much. I also know a few lesbians who received dick pics from TiMs and got called transphobe for not wanting to jump on it.

The T movement is erasing LGB kids.

[–]LustyTweed 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How can they even use the term cis if they are denying sex based differences? It makes absolutely no sense. Gosh I feel so bad for kids being raised in this bs groupthink mentality. Kids have enough trouble learning to think for themselves, with all the shitty parents and families out there and at least in the US school is also a fucking joke.

[–]Kimaris 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To them, they don't need to make sense. They just need to cry and wail harder. Never forget that a mom in the UK got charged with Trolling for saying that transwomen aren't women.

[–]PostmodernJukebox[S] 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

i saw a post literally the other day where some TIM or TIM ally was like "sure gonads and genitals and chromosomes are real but putting them into boxes isn't real" like hon.....that's what gender is. that's not sex. you literally said sex was real, then conflated it with gender, and said it wasn't. the doublethink is U N R E A L.

[–]LustyTweed 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They can't make up their mind what they want because they value performative femininity too much. The facade of appearing female is their only public facing illusion in pretending they don't have penis..is? Peni? They had to start out agreeing with transexual people that gender is a social construct because they are pretending to be transexual but now they realize that they lose something if the female gender isn't visually recognizable.

[–]LucyPevensy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This. this is why their rethoric makes no sense. Either gender is a construct separate from sex and they can't call themselves women for putting on lipstick and heels, or gender and sex are the same and then feeling like a woman is a disorder, which they also refuse. Like my penii, make up your minds!

[–]LustyTweed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't worry they figured out a loophole that they think explains it. From Dr William's essay posted yesterday. "...we have a sense of gender identity which exists independent of both our biological sex and our gendered socialisation". So their "female gender" is innate. Even though they criticize essentialism because there is no "female essence". Except for theirs, apparently. I dunno the topping on the cake for me is always how TIFs never seem to participate in any of this nonsense. I would think more LGB people would be alerted by that.

[–]fogellegof 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, all the logical fallacies, the inability to explain basic concepts on which they base their claims on are ridiculous (e.g. I and lots of others often 'wondered' or asked what a 'woman' is, if not the material reality of being born into a female body, but no one ever gave a real answer beside "it's a feeling", and often it's deemed phobic to even ask). How can anyone take this seriously?

[–]LustyTweed 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The quote was from a mod explaining to me why I got banned from a sub for defending GC against the accusation of being gender essentialists. I didn't think I outed myself, I went with the perspective of 'a righteous cause doesn't need to spread misinformation to make a point' and I was still banned and called a TERF for simply supporting factual based debate over smear campaigns. They eventually stopped responding to me because I'm sure they realized they literally couldn't explain how TIMs are not more gender essentialist than we are (because we aren't), nor how you can speak of dismantling socially constructed gender without "distinguishing" it from sex.

[–]PostmodernJukebox[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i hate it when you try to get an answer and then you're the bad guy for asking a question. it's like JW or any other cult...they don't want educated people they want blind adherents to give them more power. they don't want you to get it they want you to shut up and donate to their patreon and suck their incel girldicks.