Peak trans: tell your story here

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[–]Barber_Acrobatic 42 insightful - 1 fun42 insightful - 0 fun43 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think I'm going through the same peak-left situation currently. Now I'm not about to throw the baby out with the bathwater but I'm deeply uncomfortable with this whole purity of thought, and the ideas that some concepts are beyond the scope of debate. I'm really worried about what the future may hold, although knowing I'm not the only one does help

[–]Shinjin_Nana 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Agreed.

My issues is that with the right, it's the fight I understand for women's rights. With the left it's bottomless... like, hoisting the trans stuff onto a new generation of young women who will take tens of years to clean up. I'm having trouble deciding which is worse.

[–]Barber_Acrobatic 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think the thing that really scares me is if this is seen as over correction to how long it took gay rights to be accepted, and so the trans stuff is just being rushed through, what happens if/when the pendulum swings back the other way. Like say the TRAs get their way, and anyone can identify as a women at the drop of the hat. How long until the dregs of society start seeing this as another way to clamber into acceptance. 'MAP' kept trying to weasel into LGB, and despite the 'who would go to all the effort to get to children' rhetoric the TRAs rely on I kinda think they would.

I suspect it would be incredibly hard to explain to the far right that LGB isn't the same as T, or even that there are people with genuine dysphoria who just live their lives. I worry that the left is on a knife edge of doing permanent harm to our reputation and values, and that past a certain point all the ideas and principles we have will be bundled up and dismissed as 'woke nonsense'.

It feels like it has the potential to blow up in our faces, and a swing to the right would not be something I'd cheer on.

I think I've become a bit of a political orphan

[–]Ofthewoods 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I understand this. I feel politically homeless as well, and betrayed. I do have a tiny shred of hope that non-“woke” liberals and moderate conservatives can work together on this. My impression from older moderate and left-leaning relatives is that they are kind of just trying not to come off as hateful in a world where the definition changes rapidly. I also had a decent conversation with my conservative father after I peaked a couple of weeks ago. I spent a lot of my adolescent years trying to make my religious conservative parents understand the gay rights movement, and they have really come around since 10 years ago or so - they actually have been talking to their homophobic friends and acquaintances at church and in bible study to try and bring them around for several years and it’s important to them. So we talked about not lumping rights for LGB in with the current TRA ideology and how wrong it would be for there to be a backlash there, and hopefully they will talk about that with their friends too. But yeah. I live in a decent sized city, an island of blue and purple in a red state, and I think I’m going to focus on talking with the people who will be least resistant first. I imagine a lot of people are feeling uncomfortable but don’t feel like they can express it without being called out. For reference my parents are loyal Trump voters who love Fox News.

[–]Rationalmind 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I thought that too. With the right, I know my enemy but with the left, I’m backstabbed.

[–]Shinjin_Nana 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So right now it's 'is the devil you know worse than the devil you don't.'

Someone on spinster insinuated 'hope for a split congress and presidency then use 4 years of gridlock to bide time'

[–]SameOldBS 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same. I've been on the left my whole life, but I am beginning to despise it, despite my economic values.