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    [–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (30 children)

    Sure. That's why they're such hypocrites. Why can't they live up to their own values? And if they can't live up to their own values then where do they get off telling us that they have the moral authority to impose their values on us, by force if we won't vote for them?

    (Speaking of which... hasn't reverting to barter been making rounds as a romantic ideal of the far-right lately? The irony...)

    Who knows? Why are you reading far right sites? Nobody does. You a closet fascist? That would make a lot of sense, actually.

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      [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

      People who reject the concept of money...are charging money for a fantasy in which they reject the concept of money. You don't get it, or are you just pretending not to get it?

      Why not?

      It's pretty weird to spend a lot of time reading political extremist literature. Do you know this?

      How exactly?

      It's fascists who spend the most time reading politically extreme literature.

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        [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

        Who does that?

        Communists. Communists reject the concept of money.

        Your example of Stalin is invalid. That wasn't real communism. Real communism has never been tried.

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          [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

          Wow, you're remarkably well versed in politically extreme literature. Are you a political extremist?

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            [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

            So, you are well-versed in left-wing extremist literature, spend your free time reading right wing extremist literature, and you're somehow not a political extremist? That seems unlikely.

            Say, what's 2+2? What kills the most black people every year by 2-3 orders of magnitude: police, or other black people?

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

            Many Communists actually support labor-backed currency; their criticism is usually directed at the fiat system.

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            How does their communism differ from socialism?

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Government owns everything.

            [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            The queen owns 1/6th of earths land surface.

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            De jure, but de facto she doesn't have any power, even in England. Most of the land is just ice in Canada and desert in Australia, though.

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            The main point is that all land is claimed, and you'll have to live under the rule of one government or another. The problem with that is it's now pretty apparent those governments are effectively just managers, under the control of a small set of powerful people.

            [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            People had to use barter for certain stuff after central planning mistakes.

            [–]book-of-saturday 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            why are kids today fantasizing with communism and similar doctrines? are people really this ignorant of history? do they expect their lives to improve somehow after this "revolution"?

            clear example are modern feminists, for some inexplicable reason they think they have to become communists to be pro woman rights??? They're supposed to be helping other women but instead somehow they end up talking about fucking Foucult or Derrida and postmodernist ideology.

            [–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            why are kids today fantasizing with communism and similar doctrines?

            Because todays generation are given a magic money card. They get mad when it stops working. Debt, interest, how an economy works... These are things that are intentionally withheld in public schools. They don't understand how loans work. Or that the job they want no longer pays enough to support their desired lifestyle.

            People who don't understand how the system works, will be, by default, taken advantage of by the system. Their newfound hatred for capitalism is a side effect of it.

            If their parents explained how things worked, then they would grow to appreciate it after it gave them money, but in order for that to work, they must first be given parents who had parents who understood it.

            do they expect their lives to improve somehow after this "revolution"?

            All they know is "Now bad. Future good." Delayed gratification is a foreign concept for many of them, and I why wouldn't it be? Food is free. Water is free. They've never had to work for a day in their life, then suddenly they are expected to do hard manual labor, because nobody told them that would be consequence for not focusing on getting the right education. "Go to school to learn what you want to do!" is the absolute worst advice you can give. They don't want to think hard. They don't want to work hard. So what are they going to do when they go to college? They're going to pick the classes that are easy and pointless.

            to become communists to be pro woman rights?

            A woman is told she doesn't need help (or a spouse) to have a career. By the time the average person gets that raise/job they want, they will be in their late 20's, early 30's. At this point (as sexist as this may sound to those online in denial) most men don't want to start a family with someone that old, so they end up stuck single. There's tons of data online to back these numbers up.

            The resulting conclusion that they come up with... is that somehow the capitalistic job system is to blame for them ignoring biology. The fact is that if a woman wants to have a career she's going to have to focus on starting a family with a man who isn't looking for a career of their own. This man will often be younger than her and less wealthy than her. Both of these things are unattractive to the majority of women.

            So this highly successfully woman, who has all this money, is slowly running out of time, and is hating the world because she can't find a "Real Man."

            Obviously it can't be her fault for being unable to compromise./s

            That's why the feminist movement is slowly inching towards extreme socialistic and communistic ideas. They were lied to. Now they're old and pissed off at the world.