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That’s what I always meant I agree w. We need to morally mandate Pedos out of existence, by what I called 100% negativity them not existing!!! No orientation identity like lgbt who say we’re gay not queer. No csam or anything but max criminalization &hate but it’s called zero tolerance… I just never read pedo discourse b4 so I made the word up to approximate that concept off top of my head before learning what other anti Pedo ppl already say. Then a Bihet lesbian w Münchausen decided to be a liar &put the opposite words in my mouth bc I somehow called it an illness bc I saw other anti pedo ppl do &saw in the hebephilia debate like ppl against Ray Blanchard were saying it’s not pathological it’s not an illness. Like I said same as Anna slatz… those who claim to be never offenders dedicated to staying such should stop reproducing the inherently wrong desire (thoughts &pre crime behaviors),,, else they’re not non offending &I already said kill selves.&I was upset I fell for some bs article once long ago that are not views I ever had in my life. And I was saying stuff like the reflexivity wiki page bc that’s how I thought of orientation& looks like many others do too… like the fandom thing quoted above or this treatment Bihet lesbian linked to. https://archive.ph/YYRuR https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexivity_(social_theory) .. that ppl w orientations who beleive they are gay or trans or pedo that’s not an orientation but for someone to be out of closet as pedo they need to think they’re a pedo for some reason I don’t relate to bc I am attracted to adults only never had any other experience never would worry I could… i would never use any kind of csam real or faux… i was just talking ab how ppl say faux csam can be used as a substitute for crimes against real children by would be offenders. I never heard of pro pedosadism then it was just an article that came up and i guess I didn’t know any theory of it so i accepted the one in the science article which was also ab regular porn of adults not causing rape rates to increase. It started w that… 11 countries listed for adult porn that was normalized to me real csam would never be and I would never entertain decrim of real csam for any reason and I remember thinking that wouldn’t make it ok to legalize it bc watching real csam is just as bad abuse as commiting contact offense. I just didnt react in any thinking way I didn’t expect it it was shocking to me and I think and always have that csa is like the worst thing that could ever be done to a child so i just had a wrong reaction to this issue I never thought ab and didn’t know the politics of… i would never fall for any of that article not even the pro adult porn propaganda disguised as science today and I totally forgot ab that brief experience and it’s totally unacceptable to me for someth like that to happen so i wanted to set boundaries copy only anti pedo sources so I know for sure where i stand on these things when they come up… i asked a ? Ab the article i had just read to someone making fun of that logic of more porn less rape bc I just read that article saying that’s what they found… then i was disgusted to be on that side of the convo even tho I didn’t understand I didn’t want to bc they started answering ab csam and I was so disturbed by the whole topic I didn’t want to be talking ab it i remember thinking why tf am I talking ab this i just hate pedos and want them to die bc that’s the only i feel all my life that would never change and I don’t even want to know ab this… i deleted my comments and blocked it from memory… that is what gives me anxiety. I worried I can be tricked by pro pedosadism posing as science or csa prevention bc it happened once for five min before I snapped out of it wo resolving my confusion bc I didn’t know of pro pedo then I could never imagine that and I’d always Be against it… anyway someone who’s out of the closet has to have experiences which make them Think they’re that sexuality … they can stop that experience like pedos should like slatz said like what I thought demanding pedos be pocd not pedos was which is what I saw the anti pedo blog that was in my tl and I revlogged two posts from was doing it was second time I read ab pedos in my life, skimmed the anti pedo blog in my tl for five min. First time was a month before skimming anti map tags and a few posts on my tl for ten min. When I chose this post as my obligatory statement on pedos bc it’s the most negative violent one I saw in anti map tags skimming for ten min but removed the one line ab treatment bc it’s like neutral.. shortly after.. figuring stuff out not used to the topic at all… https://archive.ph/6GKOX … it clearly goes against pedos having pedo groups and solidarity w anyone or being decriminalized. It says they shouldn’t leave house I already said kill selves… the anti pedo blog I skimmed for five min a month later said pocds stay away from Map communities avoid children at all costs silently and don’t try to normalize pedosadism and be like pride… I didn’t know anything it also said they’re a mental illness like the obligatory statement post so I thought it was the same thing like slatz said and what obligatory statement post said ab they need to seek help for their illness

I would only ever be maximally anti pedo all my life I’d only agree w the most anti pedo option always. It would never impact any other progressive values I ever had. And she also lied and said I support restorative justice for pedos when I just said what Anna slatz said only. Off top of my head w no experience thinking or reading ab this.

pedos need to be morally mandated out of existence so they don’t exist other than criminalization and stigma and hate etc … that’s what I was always getting at not whatever satisfies Bihet lesbians w Münchausen sick delusions and desires

I was only saying what slatz said but I also said they can’t be cured if sum1 experiences Pedo desires ther a threat to kids 4life should die asap& avoid kids at least follow rules of sor before that,not try to be a Pedo identity/orientation affinity group no map community but I went along w ppl saying they should get treatment

I can have sympathy w the prison issues in the us& be anti war on drugs while also max criminalization of pedos I would never be anyth else in my life than whatever is the most against pedos possible would rather die

AFTER SAYING ALL THAT OTHER STUFF OF PEDOS ATTRACTION IS INHERENTLY HARMFUL THEY SHOULDNT BE AN IDENTITY &DEEPEN THEIR BEHAVIOR THEY NEED TO STOP IT &ALL THAT OTHER STUFF I said that’s all my stance on the matter of them not being an orientation… I made an off handed comment in 2 tags after all that saying I think alienation causes paraphilias/breeds abuse too& I regret that I think every1 should follow carceralism only Re Pedos incl all that anti pedo research according to economies of violence that’s carceralism 2 or can they fixate on sex trafficking bc it’s a male dominated space but when feminists do it they’re the cause of all problems in the world and the cause of neoliberalism bc sex trafficking is a neoliberal construct … anyway I agree w the criticism that for pedos it’s important to emphasize personal responsibility incl the public &institutions to safeguard all carceralism all the time

Re morally mandating them out of existence w criminalization safeguarding etc … zero tolerance… an evo bio explanation of rape which all pedosadism inherently is given to be which I understand bp is evo bio… the implications are the evo bio stance on reducing or minimizing the crime is zero tolerance… more tolerance will encourage the rape ape behavior etc &this is independent of morality. The average rape ape will refrain if there is heavily enforced zero tolerance but there’s some who have more power to get away w it.. sounds like Engels says the plebe pedos/abusers look to the elites to gain rights/tolerance or for power I should say… see prostasia bragging ab all their huge anon donations almost taunting their righteous detractors… seems most plausible rather than saying they can be abolished … this is the primary contradiction obv which the whole you can’t stray a hairs width from carceralism reality I just described

Like this if I didn’t know better I wouldn’t know this is evil pro pedosadism… it’s all cantor bs written by someone who works at his org … I am against all of that… https://www.thespec.com/opinion/contributors/2022/11/08/preventing-child-abuse-before-it-happens.html

When I didn’t know Pedo discoruse at all &only thought kill them all - someth I would never change& never have - I wouldn’t know what’s wrong w that article… but the stuff ab we need to talk ab it &they need to know they’re not alone &need destig env is justifying the pedo identity orientation when they just need to be killed on sight &afraid to go near kids bc of safeguarding by other adults

The Bihet lesbian who attacked me first of all always did so when I was talking ab agp saying I don’t think it’s like Pedos I think they’re like homosexual males … she says lgbt should have identities right? She was trying to say ppl who talk ab aro ace are pro pedo/pedo &she wanted to do same to me but a lot of lesbians talk ab agp to reject trans women when she said she would date them as a lesbian - she would date butch trans lesbians she was very enthused at the prospect as a lesbian … but 86% of those who seek srs are agps I bet none of the butch trans lesbians she dates even trans at all

She cited dsm entry on pedo calling it an orientation that had 2b changed bc of rightful anti pedo activism in 2013 to say if you say pedos a mental illness ur a pedo apologist& danger to kids. She also cited the paper by Blanchard cantor& seto in her post directed at kids where she told them to listen to sex workers like a child sex trafficker .. I support all anti pedo efforts so A 4effort but she shouldnt be nit pickin others yet she dk what shes talkin ab

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I repeat that one link pretending to want to prevent csa https://www.thespec.com/opinion/contributors/2022/11/08/preventing-child-abuse-before-it-happens.html

is just pedo agenda to

End mandatory reporting

Remember that’s decrim and also the nambla agenda

http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/2011/11/why-are-johns-hopkins-and-fred-berlin.html?m=1

Make pedos an orientation w rights against discrimination etc

Their agenda is incremental

They want to have a convo… I never wanted anything to do w that convo I didn’t know was going on. I just reject them I said just say no unless it’s criminalization. But looks like everyone else has to have their opinion. I think it’s fair to want to know what mine is if I had to engage. I agree w most anti pedo option always I support maximal criminalization zero tolerance death or life sentence first offense and an agenda of harsher sentences and more safeguarding. They should be treated like cyber criminals re their online presence imo that’s what the anti pedo line is from what I have observed. Like zero tolerance online that’s what I agree w too and off too.

cantor etc advocate for unsupervised Pedo groups experts like salter and all kinds of detractors oppose. https://twitter.com/mike_salter/status/1215465147914846208?s=46&t=FdpDhAn5LF66925depdVDQ

https://twitter.com/mike_salter/status/1320677650071834626?s=46&t=FdpDhAn5LF66925depdVDQ Here’s another example of someone other than Anna slatz maybe who says they don’t need online support groups or pedo dolls. https://www.rt.com/op-ed/540426-pedophiles-not-deserve-sympathy/amp/

There’s a lot more

Me looking for the above link.. look how much anyone who falls into their trap bc they lie and try to force a convo but don’t say all the other options and that they’re pro pedo agenda has to walk it back

https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Art.com+pedophilia&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

They keep pushing

Fred Engels correctly identified treatment for csa prevention as just a ploy to get rights two decades before sexology and the term pedophilia even existed

https://web.archive.org/web/20210622001838/https://joanofmark.blogspot.com/2009/11/regarding-infamous-letter-that-engels.html?m=1

Someone should attack the Bihet lesbian for attacking me for saying pedosadism isn’t an identity/orientation/sexuality and citing the dsm at me that it is an orientation bc she demands they be included in the lgbt and get legal protections against discrimination I guess

Massive improvements to Twitter’s policy on child sexual exploitation. Now a breach of policy to:

  • share drawn/simulated abuse images

- promote paedophilia as an identity/orientation

I hate Pedos more than anything else that could ever exist always have always will I WOULD NEVER BE ON THOSE MONSTERS SIDE IN MY LIFE. EVER. Would never happen. I support criminalization and am therefore against pedosadism I don’t think it’s free speech

The only convo I’m ok w is 100% negativity criminalization and zero tolerance hate stigma safeguarding supporting survivors etc

And just so you know cantor Berlin etc and other pro pedosadism activists advocate chem castration as treatment and that’s the pro pedo agenda. The treatment if any that’s allowed seems aversive techniques and maybe ones like avoiding triggers… the treatment I guessed it would be when I first started looking into the issue in 2018… staying away from kids following rules of sor and stopping reproducing their inherently harmful desire that means all thoughts and precrime not non offending behaviors … and I said no collectivism/identity solidarity when I said all that the first time. I didn’t even know anyone says they need unsupervised online or other support groups till way later when I saw cantor advocating for it no earlier than later 2019. Chemical castration is part of the treatment reisman says there’s no proof of working while Berlin is releasing these monsters onto the street bc they got chemical castration and not reporting them to the cops when he knows they’re commiting ongoing offenses or even have in the past so he can give them this “treatment”. You probably dc to defend it you don’t need to know why. Just don’t. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Expert-says-castration-no-cure-for-pedophilia-1913426.php I wouldn’t ever even get into these convos to have to walk someth back but I decided to learn it bc abusive bihets and others can make endless posts on it I want to know my stance and there’s that one time I asked a dumb q when I was blindsided by soemth weird I didn’t know how to respond to, I just shouldn’t have. Then immediately felt gross even being in a convo like that and rejected it, that was like five min once ten or more years ago and I forgot ab it.

Idk why they need therapy to stop their pedo desires which are thoughts and pre crime behaviors and to avoid kids and follow rules of sor and die asap. If they have a mind to go to therapy why can’t they just do those things on their own

This is the article I fell for once for five min… I was still brainwashed that porn of adults is not harmful I had even been talked down to by a male feminist for expressing concern for the safety of women in the industry saying idk what I’m talking ab and harming them by what I’m saying before this. Also before this I had seen articles that pedos can be non offending and ppl saying they can’t in the comments and I didn’t fall for those. I left those thinking if they’re dedicated to never offending I hope they stay that way but they’re not really dedicated unless they follow rules of sor and don’t try to be like lgbt bc I would never want that and that’s what I was saying in 2018 and since too and the Bihet lesbian attacked me citing the dsm saying it is an orientation

But the science daily article I remember believing their assertion pedos use csam as a substitute for contact offense but that wouldn’t make legalizing it ok and the article also says they would never suggest that and think they can do soemthing w faux? I didn’t know what’s going on I had an emotional response and also for some reason believed the article assertion they use porn as a substitute idk I just never saw any convo like that and I had some eMotional reaction and also uncritical and the comments on Reddit were all like how can anyone be against preventing csa i didn’t even know the implications like they want faux cp to be legal and everywhere I wouldn’t want that either. then I was like idc ab this and forgot ab it … I just read that article and believed it stupidly I should see it says someth ab legalizing csam even tho it gives a throw away comment that they would never suggest that I should know to not entertain it. I never even had conscious pro adult porn views it is just legal and I was a liberal and believed the lies ab it it’s consent or whatever… adults can do what they want or whatever never thought of being critical of that. But I never thought porn is liberation or anything. And feminism I knew was pro porn of adults. I always thought csam real csam use is the worst crime just as bad as contact offense to watch a real victims child rape or any rape. So I would never entertain the disgusting notion consuming it is a victimless crime. I saw that before this article on Reddit and was disgusted but I thought most people would never think that. I never had those kinds of conscious pro porn beliefs like my values are tied up w defending it. So I am really disturbed someth like that could happen even when I was sex pos for consenting adults by default bc that’s how I was brainwashed by liberal society and media . Anyway when I remembered that, I had forgotten ppl even say porn prevents sex crimes, I decided that would never happen again. I wanted to learn the anti Pedo line from anti pedo side ONLY that’s why I copied anti pedo ppl ONLY anti pedo blogs and posts only bc I didn’t know any other sources I just saw those in my tl … I never had any kind of beliefs like that article like prostasia or cantor other than lgbt acceptance or lgb even so I would never want anything to do w their bs even when I was liberal sex pos for consenting adults by default not like some deep seated belief other than anti rape.

I didn’t expect the dedicated anti pedo blogs to be wrong, so I blindly copied them when I saw them bc I was trying to learn and I didn’t expect them to be spreading misinfo and pro pedosadism so I repeated some wrong info from them &corrected the mistake as soon as I saw I made one but it’s not good enough for Bihet lesbian abusers who make mistakes too &attack my correct statement it’s not an orientation identity or sexuality it’s abuse,society shouldn’t normalize it by citing the dsm that it’s an orientation to show I’m spreading lies &a danger to kids like the pro pedo ppl like cantor say and she tells children to listen to sex workers in this post like a child sex trafficker

https://www.vice.com/en/article/mbzj5q/pedophiles-cant-be-cured-and-its-dangerous-to-suggest-they-can

https://web.archive.org/web/20220401062922/https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/apa-classifying-pedophilia-as-a-sexual-orientation-was-an-error/

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/lgbt-is-swiftly-being-normalized-pedophilia-is-next/

Pedophilia has always been a mental illness. The word was coined and first introduced decades after Engels said this is all a ploy for pedo rights in psychopathia sexualis - means sexual mental illness, cantor says it was always medical term and it’s only not a mental illness in dsm 5 bc of pedo activism that they thought it made them look bad copying the gay movement move of subjective distress.

https://youtu.be/d7qVoYTJL80

I’m not ok w any suggestion I could ever be sympathetic to any kind of pedo there’s nothing more despicable evil worst crime ever to me always every moment of my life. Apparently she can be against Pedos

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The event w the science daily article I saw 1x on Reddit long ago &forgot ab it was very weird to me. The whole thing. I never thought ab the issue of if csam users go on to do contact offense bc of it. It wasn’t anything on my mind or in my awareness… that issue. So thats the 1st time I saw any1 say anything ab it &it was a science article so I just believed what it said bc I had no other reference to think ab? Anyway some1 was saying more porn less abuse is stupid logic somewhere else that same day not long after I guess it was a big post in a main subreddit… &I was like I just read this article that says they found sex crimes didnt increase or went down w more porn? Isnt it true? They said csam is abuse WHICH I AGREED but the article was ab porn2 &I freaked out like this was really weird 2me 2be in this convo &I was like the article says they can use fake images only? W the idea of they can prevent contact offense &real csam use - some of the worst if not worst crimes any1 could commit 2me then& now &always …. So ofc I don’t want kids to be raped or have their rape watched& I guess I thought fiction is different &not a crime however gross. I didn’t know any of the other opinions on it. It’s the first time I saw this discussion &I thought it was expert opinion not a debate. Bc it’s a science article.

&a person responded &said pedos start to think it’s ok to rape kids and I was so freaked out like wtf and deleted my comments so it looks like I defended csam use or didn’t know it’s abuse bc I didn’t say o sorry I don’t feel comfortable w this convo. Which I didn’t. So if someone wanted to be abusive they can twist it to something it wasn’t so that was just a weird thing to me and I freaked out ab it then and when I remembered it.

That masterpost… she cites Blanchard again w the article that says csam use is a diagnostic indicator 4what she calls the disorder!!

Also she always did this intimidation of me &gas lighting when I was talking ab agp too.. saying I don’t think it’s like pedos I think they’re like homosexuality but worse in some ways ofc. She always wanted to intimidate me not to talk ab Blanchard or agp or something or twist my words but these are the things I actually think not whatever satisfies her desires &fantasies or I think she Is ok w lying& intimidating just to bully me for talking ab agp &say I’m not welcome in the left which idc but I am… I would be in other circumstances.. it’s her Lenin denounces .. she who has no connection to communism other than the dick she’s taking he doesn’t vouche for her. He invites me prob if I was a bit different. But there are no leftist leaders today like him 2declare that… bc there is no1 capable of leading among them obv. I can’t imagine any1 w the fortitude to say what he did in his comments on the womens question. Lenin is talking to rad feminists obv. I think that comment denouncing leftist bullies of radical feminists from Lenin probably stands for eternity, regardless of if any leftist ever emerges who is capable of such leadership ever again. To me it doesn’t matter O AND HE SAYS RADICAL FEMINISTS GET A SEPARATE FACTION IN THE THING THAT MAO LINKS TO… fn2 on new democracy. But 2me thats not enough to make up 4leftist abuse &I dont think it should be 4 any1 other independent minded female. https://youtu.be/YNSxNsr4wmA

anyway she said ppl who say its a mental illness intrusive thots etc are factually incorrect &cited the dsm entry on pedo calling it an orientation 2prove its not a mental illness. I don’t agree w any of this not her saying it’s factually incorrect or what the factually correct reality is… it’s always been a mental illness started in psychopathia sexualis… &it only became partially not a mental illness in dsm 5 bc of lobbying by what seems to be b4u act to copy the moves of gay movement to de pathologize and become orientation. And it’s the subjective distress thing… if it’s instrusive repetitive etc.. so it’s those things. I don’t agree w that if I had to agree w someth it would be odonohue or to disband the apa and remove paraphilias. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia#Debate_regarding_criteria

First, DSM-III explicitly acknowledged that there may well be a continuum between sexual health and sex- ual deviance: ‘‘[I]n DSM-III there is no assumption that each mental disorder is a discrete entity with sharp boundaries between it . . . and No Mental Disorder’’ (APA, 1980, p. 6). The editors recognized that paraphi- lic fantasies or acts could be part of a normal sexual repertoire and a healthy sexual relationship. They recog- nized, for example, that ‘‘women’s undergarments and imagery of sexual coercion are sexually exciting for many men,’’ and that ‘‘masochistic fantasies of being bound, beaten, raped or otherwise humiliated may facilitate sexual excitement in some [normal] indivi- duals’’ (APA 1980, pp. 267, 273–274). Diagnostic cri- terion A stipulated that it is only when such imagery becomes ‘‘insistently and involuntarily repetitive,’’ ‘‘repeatedly preferred or exclusive,’’ and even ‘‘neces- sary’’ to achieve sexual gratification, or when such imagery is effectively acted upon (as in the case of maso- chism or sadism), that it is to be considered part of a proper paraphilia. In sum, what made an unusual sexual fantasy or urge a mental disorder, according to DSM-III, was its exclusivity and=or its repetitivity in arousing sexual excitement. Curiously, DSM-III seemed to follow Freud’s characterization of the paraphilias here, thereby ignoring its very own definition of mental disorder, which it did use to legitimize the removal of homosexuality (Primoratz, 1997; Silverstein, 1984). As noted previously, homosexuality was not deleted from DSM-II because it was somehow shown to involve occasional, as opposed to exclusive and=or repetitive, sexual acts or fantasies. Rather, it was deleted because many homosexuals were not in any way distressed or impaired by their sexual orientation

also!!! This is like me falling for the science daily article I just didn’t know anything ab this subject or issue and never thought ab if pedos who use csam offend bc of it. Never crossed my mind and I believed what the article said such a ? Had never occurred to me so I didn’t know I shouldn’t beleive the science article by experts … even the psych who took pedo out of the dsm doesn’t think ab such things imagine how much he had to think ab related issues

The interviewer seems to have been shocked at this ‘‘confession,’’ but in a sense, Spitzer’s honesty should not really surprise us. Directly or indirectly, lobby groups often aim to transform societal norms and values, and if such norms and values play any role in defining mental illness, as Spitzer believes, then lobbying inevitably affects psychiatry’s diagnostic process. Immediately after the APA board’s decision to delete homosexuality from their manual, Irving Bieber publicly asked Spitzer whether he would consider deleting other sexual deviations from DSM, too. Spitzer answered: ‘‘I haven’t given much thought to [these problems] and per- haps that is because the voyeurs and the fetishists have not yet organized themselves and forced us to do that’’ (qtd. in Bayer, 1987, p. 397; see also Bieber, 1987, p. 433).

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23480073/

it was literally never important to me to call it an illness, I didn’t know there’s anything wrong w that and what was and remains important to me is it’s not an orientation. And it’s standard radical feminism to say abuse shouldn’t be normalized or legitimized as sex/sexuality. Even anon does it

https://youtu.be/apSVl_POcYw

I didn’t even realize I somehow compared it to intrusive thoughts I’m not the one w Münchausen I never even heard of intrusive thoughts.. I just thought pedo shouldn’t be an identity w affinity groups identity politics etc and they should stay away from kids& everyone else and die &not use csa dolls etc… that’s what I agree w

AND she didn’t find literally any of the bad stuff Blanchard did like what cantor says in that video or the debate regarding criteria wiki. I found that all myself. She cited him as the anti Pedo facts in the dsm and this article

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2006-09167-022

clearly I didn’t know ab that. I, like she obviously did, assumed the dsm&psych were normal ppl &anti pedo basically not good enough still probably… they’re not feminist activists. But I thought they were basically anti pedo but more professional but the truth is they’re horrific… esp sexology. I had NO idea ab the treachery of sexology I thought they said pedosadism is never normal a danger to others& a crime.

She was citing the dsm like it is a legitimate source as 1 of her anti pedo sources so

Lenin personally invited what seems like radical feminists& he said their detractors are full of shit and these are the things that matter to him

Nowadays all the thoughts of Communist women, of working women, should be centered on the proletarian revolution, which will lay the foundation, among other things, for the necessary revision of material and sexual relations. [meese, incl James cantor, items 5&6] Just now we must really give priority to problems other than the forms of marriage prevalent among Australia’s aborigines, or marriage between brother and sister in ancient times. For the German proletariat, the problem of the Soviets, of the Versailles Treaty and its impact on the lives of women, the problem of unemployment, of falling wages, of taxes and many other things remain the order of the day. To be brief, I am still of the opinion that this sort of political and social education of working women is wrong, absolutely wrong. How could you keep quiet about it? You should have set your authority against it.

He said radfems should criticize not recommend like they did

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o I found one click 1 &dl

https://libgen.fun/get.php?md5=BF8413DBE662A605313B39C4095CA62B&token=7d4c6d9739f5508c

Can’t copy paste the soros empire replacing the soviet empire vid

Btw last time I paid attn to her at all like 2019 she said shes not a member of a party &clearly she was taking some communist girl dick 2think shes so superior 2 every1 else..who said he’s 2old 4her maybe who is lying to her she’s so great bc clearly she’s not… so yeah both of them are exactly who Lenin doesn’t vouche for &she’s a bully

anyway I think sex science &what the dsm did is nambla. I think b4u act is a similar group w similar aims& the sex scientists know it& I had no idea of any of this or that they dont report abuse I knew they had committed abuse some stories but most of them I didn’t know about& I am against that I think they should be prosecuted

I mean the stuff Judith reisman talks about & I agree w her saying the bishops should sue the sexologists who advised them

Idk how I feel ab pedos getting some form of treatment that isn’t like what James cantor advocates for but like Michael salter or some1 like that or idk what anti pedo ppl mean by treatment idk if I even wanted to think ab it to the extent to comment on that but other ppl do &then the pro pedo people try to push that convo &i thought the dsm was a lot better than it is so I just wanted to tell ppl who might not know that … Im against ending mandatory reporting &idk what the consequences should be4 that& Im against ending the sor I think it should be strengthened w more jail time harsh mandatory min sentences in a facility far away from the vulnerable which children inherently are for 1st offense & I’m very against destigmatization if they commit abuse they should get life or death sentence if they fail to report idk I’ll say same idk what is advocated for

like it’s not hard to be against nambla I def would only ever be &violently so. I dont want to ever be any pedo apologist just like she wouldnt be I would rather die than be pedo apologist either I have no beliefs which would ever require that &my beliefs are very against Pedos always have been always will be bc kids can’t consent& I have always been very supportive of the age of consent I think it should be high everywhere nothing else could ever be possible. I only have deepest sympathy 4victims &want kids 2be protected from them w age of consent & safeguarding& all support to survivors never pedos. I have literally never had a single drop of sympathy for any kind of pedo& nothing I ever said was that &I said that from day 1 the 1st time she tried to put those words in my mouth I said I don’t understand this discourse& I copied some other anti ppl saying pedo is an illness they need treatment& I never meant it as sympathetic or feel sorry for pedos don’t put those words in my mouth &the Bihet les abuser kept doing it even tho I told her the 1st time she did it immediately thats NOT WHAT I MEANT AT ALL& WOULD NEVER she doesn’t care she just wants to abuse me

If 1 Socialist woman can do to me what she did any 1 of them can do it to any independent minded female who should auto assume soc women are a threat to them not invite or engage them … if you know they are like that will completely lie not care put words in ur mouth you never said and would never mean and not take accountability ever even when you ask them did you even say that …you put urself in that situation of abuse &you put ur life in danger.. stay away from leftism bc they’ll treat u like that punish u 4stuff they wont punish ppl they think should be there or even lie to punish u for stuff they wanna punish some1 for even if ur very against whatev they’re pinning on u which I was w all she tried 2 put on me I was always only 4 zero tolerance& upset if I missed the mark ever then wished I never tried but why can she make endless posts ab it w mistakes &I can’t also wanna be able to comment on it in a way I agree w noth I don’t agree w,noth tolerance …my mental health is dependent on 1 Bihet abusive behavior she could answer 1 y n ? &end it but she won’t &she knows what’s at stake& it will be until she does right thing or I die … she’s the 1 responsible 4my mental health bc of her gaslight abuse not me& she’s the 1 responsible to fix it by taking accountability 4 her abusive behavior &lies… she said I said horrible things I never said& twisted my words when I did say things I shouldnt have bc I never read ab pedos& I was upset ..my mental health now is a lot better than it was in that moment in 2018 when she decided it’s time to abuse me when I was so upset I couldn’t breathe literally couldn’t breathe or think a coherent thought but she was putting horrible words in my mouth I didn’t say &I managed to reject them I said I didn’t mean to say anything sympathetic I didn’t mean boo-hoo feel sorry for pedos they suffer bc I copied an anti Pedo blog calling it an illness & another 1 sayin same thing slatz said linked elsewhere …I dont relate to pedos any kind of p incl pocd at all I h8 them only ever hated them support all existing crim incl all real cp &support more criminalization stigma intolerance etc… this would never be a convo to me I didn’t know theres ppl like cantor& prostasia trying to say pedos are oppressed &discriminated against &then hold “treatment to prevent csa” over ppls heads to coerce them into listening to sumn they would never entertain …I think she knew I didn’t say or mean any of her lies but got off on bullying me& gas lightin me& saying everyth bad I never said like a power trip.. NOT INTERESTED 😒..I said it’s an Illness maybe &I blamed pedo apologist survivors 4making mistakes which she knows perfectly well they do… she made posts that survivors defend csam on social media herself& she linked to this in that masterpost that demands pedos be an orientation and incl in lgbt https://archive.ph/NleBQ AND I AM SORRY I SAID THAT AND APOLOGISED MANY TIMES SINCE I WAS UPSET AT NOT UNDERSTANDING AND FALLIN FOR PRO PEDO CSA PREVENTION DISCOURSE FOR FIVE SEC ON FIRST EXPOSURE BC CSA INCL REAL CP IS WORST CRIME IN EXISTENCE N I DONT WANT IT TO HAPPEN TO ANY1… all I am asking her Is she lied and said I said ppl should be nicer to Pedos which I know I didn’t that’s against my stated principle of 100% negativity I already said before her abuse… I’m not askikg her to lie I am asking her to tell the truth did I say those literal words SHE is the only person in world who said I ever said. She said she takes screenshots of me saying these things so where Is it if answer is yes or did she put words in my mouth bc I called it an illness when I didn’t know anything and was copying anti pedo blogs like this obligatory statement post that I said is what I agree w everything in it a month before she started her abuse https://archive.ph/6GKOX I also blamed this article I read before any of this was even on my mind in early 2018 I only remembered science daily article summer 2018 &freaked thot I had to figure out what zero tolerance is the only thing I’d ever agree w.. never thot of Pedos as non offending I hate them all want them dead think they’re worst evil predator abusers ALWAYS… all my life.. I never heard of other shit until other ppl say it n I didn’t get it if it’s not straight up decrim but stuff like it’s like they need treatment or some other csa prevention that stuff i was confused at first exposure when i has zero awareness of pro pedo agenda & propaganda & all that stuff is that which it is … I used to think or assume noth like that could ever happen n every1 h8s pedos as they should &no 1 wants decrim or them to be like lgbt https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/8qgzpx/a-child-rape-victim-on-why-society-should-be-more-empathetic-to-pedophiles I thot her story was sad n she wants them to get treatment bc we say kill them all she says we can do that but it won’t change her life I didn’t notice she said ppl should be nicer SUMN I NEVER REMOTELY THOT OR SAID IN MY LIFE EVER &I SAID I HATE PEDOS FOR DEMANDING TO BE CALLED GOOD PPL (virtuous) FOR USING CSA DOLLS &NOT RAPING KIDS that’s the closest thing I said to that &I still think they dont deserve praise or acceptance for not raping kids which is a requirement for every1… also she thinks she wins an argument I never asked for her input on bc she wants to say radical feminism excuses abuse by saying men are inherently violent so radfems can’t be against abuse stfu &lying isn’t winning an argument not that I care but sexology says it depends on if society tolerates it &I always meant to support lgbt or at least lgb acceptance but also think t is some adult orientation2 or maybe another gender idk.. I always meant that I demand zero tolerance for pedosadism.. cantor&nambla&Blanchard support tolerance thats not science that’s their pedo apologist beliefs … cantor admits its not science but namblas agenda &the scientists do the things they do bc they “listen to pedo acceptance activists” which is b4u act who are like nambla… https://youtu.be/d7qVoYTJL80.. the psych who took gay out of dsm said its not science but activism too

I used to ask her nicely but she keeps gas lighting

I was starting a difficult learning process obv many people don’t ever attempt bc it’s some weirdos like James cantor &nambla doing it &I made some mistakes w what I thought was correct I was trying to copy anti pedo sources when I didn’t know any of this is going on& thot it’s an anti lgbt stawman… I was trying to be anti pedo 2the max def exclusionary& I would never support Pedos having solidarity w any movement that’s not anyth I ever said I said that obligatory statement post is what I think &they called it an illness.. she wants 2take advantage of that confusion when I was reading ab pedos 4 1st time in my life …I was esp confused ab when they say it’s science or csa prevention &I had to process it &it took way more time than the 1st time I read an anti pedo blog that was in my tl

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Shes not a good faith actor &I think she new wut she was doin.She had no other reason 2treat me like that other than she didnt like me talking ab agp or she thought I was rad fem. Thats the only reason she tried to bully& intimidate me&she thot I am a leftist so she can dump all her grievances on me like accuse me of thinkin Pedos shud get restorative justice bc I said I agree w what slatz said that I cited elsewhere tho I didn’t even say they shouldnt be shot on sight THATS THE 1ST THING I SAID PEDOS NEED. A month be4, in anothr post I was continuin… a lot of leftists say dumb shit ab alienation even ab pedos &abuse &I only meant movements who want attack abuse @the root shud have solidarity w working class power& right after that I said thats not 4pedos who just need 2follow rules of sor not be an identity or have solidarity w any1& my obligatory statement post said they should Never leave house etc& I said kill themselves already when I said thats my obligatory Statement …lots of leftists say alienation &she just wanted 2dump all her grievances on me whether I said that or not bc she saw me as disposable&not welcome in leftism 4no other reason than she has some grudge against rad feminism on behalf of dick havers well I think any1 who cud be wrongilly attacked like that shud say fuck u 2all leftist unless they want 2b socialist womens punching bag even if they never said anyth theyre projecting like prison abolition or reform for ex w me she obv thought she could project all her stupid bs ab that on me when wut she said isnt my stance yes I am sympathetic2reform but never 4peds u idiot& the article Id read a week b4 that was saying alienation is root cause of sex abuse I dont agree w anymore (dw 2 excuse abusers 4 1) &shud never have it has a bunch of nambla talking points in it but then I didnt believe any1 was actually like that I thot it was an anti leftist strawMan so I didnt recognize many issues in it bc I didnt no Namblas talking points then& I shouldnt give ppl benefit of doubt like I did then… it said

Clearly, there are some instances of grave harm that require the segregation of offenders for the protection of society.

Im most disgusted& support all violence against any1 whod ever think or say anyth like this ⬇️ (green).. even as a libfem/lib sex pos 4consentin adults by default I thot this argument was so evil &so disgustin when I saw ppl make it incl those who defend their abusers &say they feel fondly ab it stfu& get a bullet 2the head all of them … I wouldnt remember this mans death fondly like I saw cantor/maybe even Blanchard do on Twatter

Richard Green commented on the proposed change& is opposed. He brings up the implications of sex predator laws in regards 2the addition of hebephilia2 the pedo criteria. “The nature of the person’s offense must be considered. A habitual violent rapist represents a very different universe of public safety from a person who enjoys genital fondling with a compliant pubescent. Currently, the latter are being entombed along with the former by sexual predator law. … These persons’ sexual activity was with persons ‘biologically ready for coitus.’ The men ‘scarcely merit(ed) the emotionally charged label of sex offender’ (Gebhard, et. al. 1965).” Isn’t it interesting that one of the criteria a psychiatrist thinks is important is whether a child is biologically ready for coitus, but emotionally ready does not enter the picture.. [child marriage is legal in US bc of religious rw ppl like those who wrote this. Child rapist protectors… men like Paul C roberts think the child rape party is ab 2start w the measures ppl like u try 2 bring in (common law)… male think they shouldnt be punished 4 preying on children bc ppl like u apparently dont “expect girls 2 stay virginal till college”.. THATS UR MEN.. who is the problem the children they rape or the adult males? Most teen pregnancy is by grown adult males in their late 20s/30s or older.. THATS WHAT THEY THINK UR COMMON LAW WHEN THE AGE OF CONSENT WAS NON EXISTENT BC THE WOMENS MOVEMENT HADNT STRUGGLED 4 IT YET OR IT WAS AT MOST 10 TO 12 YO… MEANS. Those are the utterly sickening subhumans you keep trying to rehabilitate. fuck off u evil child rapist &predator protecting & defending bitch w ur defense of child marriage&ending age of consent the womens movmnt fot 4. Dont ever pretend u give a single shit ab protecting esp female children from adult sex predators..https://wap.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/cpi-m-slams-mos-home-over-marital-rape-statement-115043000003_1.html]

re Paul Craig roberts… namblas immediate goal is also 2lower age of consent to 14 then get rid of it all together

this evil man’s [green] life shud NOT be celebrated by ANY1 who isn’t a sympathizer w the cause of legalizing child rape

Btw R green is the 1 who criticized Blanchard/cantors proposal 2expand category of pedo 2 incl hebe like icd 10 already does & calls it all pedophilia not Pedo hebephilia.. as pathologizing reproductively valid behavior fn 10 and odonohue is the 1 who criticized it as not going far enough per Blanchards Wikipedia it took me a while2 learn that as well. I assumed the ppl sayin it doesnt go far enuf meant they didnt raise the age high enuf which I agree they only raised it 1 yr from 13 to 14 NOT ENUF.. Id never heard of absolutely nowhere on my radar of this paraphilic disorder/subjective distress history & “politics” of dsm & gay movmnt & mental illness shit till well after 2019 at earliest … I didnt no its that they were saying its only not normal if they feel distressed which is what Blanchard did vs odonohue saying it’s never normal bc it’s dangerous to others … I mean blanchadd said its not pathological if they don’t feel distressed or havent raped@ least 3 diff kids & ondonue said it’s always pathological p17 … I agree & have always agreed they didnt raise the age high enough & I also dont agree w the word hebephilia 4 pedophilia. I think it is all pedophilia or pedosadism rather.. icd 10 even calls it all pedo.. always Agreed w this video incl as a lib sex pos 4 consenting adults which is when I 1st saw it long before crit of sex pos by standar of safe sane consensual which kids animals & other situations can never be https://youtu.be/TB9fwJDweaU … but odonohue & that ibtimes article are talking ab someth completely different I had literally 0 awareness of… what criteria 4 pathology is.. that why I’m telling u all this bc I 4 a long time thot it was completely different I assumed it was like odonohue &never normal=inherently pathological/bad& I didn’t know pathologization is an issue @all i had 0 awareness Blanchard did that bc of pressure from pedo movmnt copying gay movemnt gettin out of dsm & becomin orientation w subjective distress move …esp since I Thot they dont get influenced by those activist pressures dredger even wrote a book on that theme &they end up being nambla w all this history &drama of gay movment vs dsm.. its a mess this alone took me a lot of trauma 2learn

…@the same time she was goin round demandin prison abolitionists explain 2her what theyd do ab her dad who sent her2 bed wo dinner prob 4not eating what they gave her.. while her mom was there so how was it not her mom doin it?GET OVER IT DIVORCE IS OVER NOW HES GONE ask ur mom how long u/we all have 2 keep doin this. https://youtu.be/sag37aAf1WU https://preventht.org/editorial/foster-care-and-the-pipeline-to-human-trafficking/ &SHE SAYS SHE USED 2 THINK HE LOVED HER B4 THERAPISTS HER MOM TAKES HER2 CONVINCED HER OTHERWISE I 2 was punished as a child I was beaten &whipped w belts noth like bein preyed on by pedos who h8 kids &get off on ruinin their lives. Not comparable 2parentin. Idk wut she wants prison abolitionists2 tell her ab her parental alienation situation. Her dad doesnt seem 2have done anyth so out of line any1 can do anyth ab it her mom is clearly mad ab her divorce &pulled her kid in2 it. many divorced mothers wouldnt do that. &her mom apparently put her on 14 psych meds/day… shell 4give her mom tho not her dad she used 2think loved her. her mom parent style=drop her off @psychs who tell her she doesnt have 2take responsibility ever bc she has ~LoW eMpAtHy~… she was better off bein punished like normal. Idk what she want prison abolitionist 2tell her ab that &idk y she took it out on me either but I hope every independent minded female sees it &treats all socialist esp soc women accordingly - as abusers &a threat

csa by parents is worst abuse requirin interventn by heavy safeguarded cps but parentin incl punishment is not that. 60% of trafficked kids go thru cps.. w culture of anti parenting hysteria feedin the system

Other than nambla propaganda that was in that article that I shud have been way more disciplined ab that instead of giving benefit of doubt no 1 is like that… I dont agree w the alienation framing of abuse bc it can be misconstrued as solidarity w abusers &I would never mean that. They have solidarity w elite abusers like Engels said… tho I wud never mean they should have solidarity w any progress &I said that I said not 4 them they just need to stay away from kids &every1 else& die. Wo ever doing anyth 2 any kids. I was learnin there was a lot of new Info most stuff I had 0 awareness of yet &a lot of new things I had 2consider &decide on it was the 1st 5min i tried 2even read or think ab it ok