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[–]loveSloaneDebate King 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I do. I do think that knowing trans people and interacting with them has deeply influenced my views.

When I was a kid I was around a few TW often and they had a drastically different mentality than what I see and hear today. I spent most of my life thinking most trans people had a similar mentality to them (I still tend to think this, honestly).

It was interacting with the trans people who say the things that are pushed today that turned me gc.

I still see and talk to the TW from when I was a kid occasionally, I mention them here every so often, and I’ve worked with a few TW and fewer TM as an adult, and have two or three trans “friends of a friend”. Of the trans people I’ve met more recently, I only feel comfortable around two of them (to be fair off the top of my head that means there’s only like 3 trans people I know that I don’t like, and 4 (used to be 5, one died) that I care about, like, or genuinely love.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Adding on- I’ve met and encountered many trans people and the experiences have been varied, but I didn’t include them because I don’t really know them.

[–]Lizzythelezzo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had a similar experience where I was totally TRA, until exposure to lots of trans identified people slowly changed my views. I never changed my views because of reading TERF material - I sought out TERF articles and forums after I started questioning due to my experiences with multiple trans people in my personal life and social networks. I found the vast majority were autistic/ADHD, mentally unstable and had Cluster B disorders (notably BPD and structural dissociation), so I started wondering why and looking deeper into it.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks you so much for sharing!!! That’s interesting growing up around a TW. Do you remember how you thought about them as a child? Feel free not to answer if that is too personal. It makes sense that the mentality was different. It’s nice you at least had some positive experience. I feel like different people are transitioning than did in the past maybe or just it is all a lot more demanding than it was or both. It’s understandable that those interactions with trans people now would push you to be GC. I feel like the thing that makes me feel most ashamed for being a transsexual is that so much gaslighting, toxicity, and actual harm is coming from trans people and the movement/ideology around it now.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My mom worked for an lgbt center and was (is still) friends with a few TW. I remember not caring or thinking anything of them being trans. They were and are great people. I had questions sometimes and they answered them honestly and as delicately as they could for a child lol. My understanding was that they were technically men but felt happier presenting as TW. I wasn’t sure what you meant by your question but I don’t mind answering lol

I feel like it’s easier to transition now and so more people are jumping to it without fully understanding what they’re getting into and a lot of those people will end up detransitioning in the future. I also think a lot of people calling themselves trans have done nothing to transition lol

What pushed me to being gc was the fact that the trans people I encountered as a kid could answer my questions in ways that make sense and the trans community now can’t do that, if they even bother to answer at all.