QT: The most damning contradiction of trans ideology

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Twain said

What word would you use for those of us who are adult humans of the female sex but who do "identify with the social class that is culturally associated to the female sex"?

To which you responded

Those would be men or nonbinary people, depending on how they identify. It seems like you are conceptualising gender identity in a different way to me however if you think that the majority of female people feel this way. In my experience it is a tiny minority.

So yeah, you are telling us who we are by applying your QT to the many women who feel zero connection to their socially prescribed idea of a woman whilst recognising that they are adult human females, ergo women.

QT is applied to all, despite their lack of faith in gender identities. You may as well have said we have the Holy Spirit.

[–]rubberdubberd00 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

The idea that adult human females are women is a part of the socially prescribed idea of a woman. If a person considers that they are a woman because they are an adult human female, I would consider that to be identifying as a woman. After all, no one relates to all aspects of womanhood.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Lmao sure, woman also refers to adult female giraffes, some models of Toyotas, and a delectable coffee based beverage.

Darlin you’ve already said what you’ve said. Backtracking and claiming there’s more to the definition you previously provided is some bullshit.

[–]rubberdubberd00 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Lmao sure, woman also refers to adult female giraffes, some models of Toyotas, and a delectable coffee based beverage.

???

I stand by everything that I've said. If you think that there's some inconsistency there let me know what it is and we can discuss it.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

The inconsistency is that you are claiming that definitions don’t exist, rather words are defined as any assortment of ideas any number of people may have, regardless of how related or unrelated those ideas may be.

You have claimed woman means whatever any individual says it means. Is an adult female giraffe a woman or not? It must be according to your methods because I have claimed so.

[–]rubberdubberd00 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I never claimed that definitions don't exist. But yes, I believe that words are defined based on how people use them, and each person is going to have a slightly different understanding of the meaning of any one word.

You seem to be mixing up meaning and definition. If you have learnt a version of the word "woman" by which an adult female giraffe is a woman then you are not wrong to use the word this way, but this would not change the definition of the word unless there was a significant group of people or contexts in which the word was used this way.

You have claimed woman means whatever any individual says it means

Again, no, I haven't.

If you just claim that the word "woman" means that, that does nothing at all. What you say has no influence whatsoever on the meaning of a word.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Meaning and definition are the same thing babes

[–]rubberdubberd00 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

A definition is a statement about the meaning of a word.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Ergo, a definition is the meaning of a word….

[–]rubberdubberd00 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Nope.

When someone says a sentence, they mean the whole sentence. You don't get to just pick out the words you like and pretend that that's what they said.