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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You are the same sex as Elliot page, babes.

Both adult human females, no? Elliot did not testosterone herself into becoming male.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Elliot Page did testosterone himself into a male. He is becoming a gorgeous and handsome man.

Also, most trans men don't want to be classed with females and I respect that. I don't want to be classed with gender criticals even though I'm a cis woman. I understand GCs don't want to be classed with trans women but many cis women do. People in your sex category include J.K. Rowling, Julie Bindel and Sheila Jeffreys and I respect that.

[–]Juniperius 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh, wow, so you consider a woman with different political opinions to not be the same sex as yourself?! That is the most bizarre thing I think I've heard yet from the QT side. And that's saying something.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Here is the thing. As I've stated before I share a sex with Oprah, Laverne Cox, Beyonce, MJ Rodriguez, Rihanna, Jazz Jennings, Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift. So I obviously categorize myself with cis and trans women. Many gender critical women expressed they do not want to be categorized with trans women, so I will respect that as well. So I'm fine with them creating their own sex category. If they want to categorize themselves with cis women I think most cis women are OK with it. However trans men expressed they do not want to be categorized with women and that needs to be respected as well. Due to the wishes of GC women, I no longer categorize them with trans women but I am a cis woman who categorizes herself with trans women and anyone who shares a sex with me will share a sex with trans women, so I think its fair to have a separate category for gender critical women. I respect everyone's identity and won't categorize groups who don't mutually agree to be categorized.

[–]BiologyIsReal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, just stop. You're always trying to give this image that you are this super good and super tolerant person, who is even willing to disavow their own family for the crime of calling a man a man. But no one buys it. It sounds so fake. Especially when you say things like you "respect" our "identities", yet you miss the point of anything we say and now you are even pretending we are not the same sex because of our political beliefs.

I don't know why you do this, but trying to appear as this super trans ally won't save you when (not if) QT disavows you for not keeping up with their ever changing rules.

[–]Juniperius 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So sex has absolutely nothing to do with bodies. Only with people mutually agreeing to be in a club together. So you have personally spoken to "Oprah, Laverne Cox, Beyonce, MJ Rodriguez, Rihanna, Jazz Jennings, Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift" and asked all of them whether they mutually agree to be in a club with you?

Of the group above, and the group consisting of gc women, which kind of female is my cat?

[–]adungitit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's too bad that GC base things on actual reality, and not on whatever anyone "wants" to be true. That's the key distinction. The reason you can keep saying insane bullshit like labelling GC a gender identity is because your ideology allows anyone to say anything. There is nothing actually defining GC, or gender, or identities, or society. The world around you only exists only because of what someone told you they "wish" were true, and no proof or evidence or even sensible logic is necessary. In fact, it is offensive due to showing a lack of faith. It's very similar to how religion works.

We do not identify as women. We ARE women. We are recognising a biological fact that is physical and measurable, and whose biological mechanisms have been understood for a while now. We do not identify as women with the same logic as we might identify with being interdimensional dragon-fairy cross-breeds. That we might claim we do not want to be categorised with women, or human beings in general, does not actually make us into magical beings, because being a human is a biological, measurable reality of our existence, and no amount of temper tantrums or trying to identify out of it through wishful thinking affects that.

That Elliot Page is neither a man nor an interdimensional dragon-fairy cross-breed is measurable and provable. The fact that she can say she "wishes" she was male or magical is 100% irrelevant. People wanting the Earth to be the centre of the universe never actually made it so.