GC: How would you react if you saw a trans woman in the women's restroom?

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not sure how I can be a male supremacist when I hate being male and everything that comes with it and so I am trying to change and be better.

Virtually all males are male supremacists because virtually all males take advantage of the benefits of male supremacy. You are actively benefiting from male supremacy and misogyny when you use women’s spaces. Look at the responses in this thread, where every single woman said they would leave or otherwise not speak up despite their discomfort. Why do you think they’re uncomfortable, and why do you think they wouldn’t speak up? You directly benefit from every rape, murder, assault, and harassment of female people by male people endemic in patriarchy. You directly benefit from every assault, threat, deplatform, and loss of livelihood and reputation that male trans people have inflicted on female people. Even if you’ve never personally done any of these things—you can use women’s spaces, resources, words, etc, because of these things. You have unsuccessfully tried to divorce yourself from the wider context of patriarchy and male supremacy but this has just made your analysis shallow, and your attempts to ‘change and be better’ ineffective.

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Well of course GCers are uncomfortable around trans people because y'all hate us. That's not surprising. Y'all speak up on here but there's literally no reason anyone should be afraid of me, if someone angrily confronted me I would just leave. I don't benefit from male violence; men direct it at me too. I don't harass anyone I am just done being too terrified to go out in public. I can only use those spaces because I transitioned and take hormones and voice trained, not because of others' actions.

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Your total lack of acknowledgement of the context of the rapes, murders, assaults, harassments, threats, deplatformings, and loss of livelihoods and reputations which make many women feel a rational discomfort towards male people as a class and your re-framing of this discomfort as unreasonable bigotry is male supremacy. So much so that it is common rhetoric in men's rights activists' spaces. If you personally take any precautions against or feel any discomfort towards males as a class due to the precedence of male violence against transwomen/GNC male people then you do absolutely understand risk assessment based on the context of someone’s sex, you just don’t think the female half of the population deserves the same consideration. This is male supremacy.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you. Perfectly stated.