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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Why would you send the child to a different teacher?

I disagree with the teacher's method.

All these people are bad because they impose their definitions on others but you are doing just that by trying to tell me that I and everyone else think a certain way, and do things the way you do, for the same reasons you do.

All I'm really saying is that "feelings" kinda also includes your opinions and beliefs about the world. Is feeling something is correct or factual not a feeling?

If you have any animals I beg you to relinquish them to someone who would not allow someone to overdose them

I love cats and I'm getting one soon, I miss the cats I grew up with dearly. I would just listen to my vet if my vet told me it would be okay for them to give the higher dose, I trust their judgment.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why do you disagree with their method?

Any according to your line of thinking, anyone could say they are a vet based on really feeling like they are one even if they haven’t been to vet school or even seen an animal.

Feelings are not factual, they are emotions. Emotions are an idiosyncratic experience. Unknowable to anyone else.
You aren’t just saying that though.
You are using this line of unreasoning to claim that woman is a feeling because you feel badly otherwise.

You have used this line of unreason to argue that anyone who has woman feelings should have legal right to spaces and resources that have been designated as being for females.

This isn’t just kinda sorta feeling like actually derrples emotions are pretty important, this is an argument for the elimination of female rights cloaked in riddling about emotions, and what I perceive as attempts at guilt, such as repeated negative references to your own appearance, and references to your own pain.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Because I think the alphabet is different lol

Any according to your line of thinking, anyone could say they are a vet based on really feeling like they are one

Sure, they could, that's always a possibility when working with anyone. My hope is that people who say they are vets have put in the expected work though.

I'm an emotional person I won't apologize for that. I already know not to expect any empathy from GC people for my dysphoria or situation. I've decided not to let that beat me down.

You have used this line of unreason to argue that anyone who has woman feelings should have legal right to spaces and resources that have been designated as being for females

Yes, I generally think that we should respect and believe people's identities regardless of biology. How could I ever believe otherwise?

Maybe I would or will think differently if I were actually female and didn't have to base my personhood on something I know to be true but that isn't obvious to other people. I hope not, I hope I would still be someone who accepts others' identities even if I don't understand how they arrived at them.

And...tbh it is kind of rich to pull out the tired "trans people are being manipulative by talking about their dysphoria" trope? As if half of my talks with people on here haven't been them basically calling me a man and saying I'm an awful abusive male invading spaces. That also reads like clear emotional manipulation to me.

This debate kinda just has emotion baked into it.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But why do you think it’s different? The teacher really does feel that and it’s not like she’s hurting anyone by believing her version of the alphabet is the one everyone else at the school uses.

Not letting her teach hurts her deeply. She’s always felt like she’s an English teacher, ever since she was a toddler! She used to carry books around and wear specs, she has spent literally years practicing giving lectures. Refusing to let her teach your child is like saying she’s not really an English teacher!

It has emotion baked in, FOR YOU. For me, it’s pretty tedious, but not emotional. Other people do not feel what you feel, and aren’t taking everything written here personally.

It’s not a tired old trope when it happens all the time. It’s not a tired old trope when it’s literally in your refutation that it’s being used.

Emotional manipulation is trying to sway or derail a discussion.

It is not people stating their opposing ideas and not being compelled by your emotions and opinions. We are not emotionally manipulating you by not changing our perceptions of reality to one more in line with your own.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And that's great for her I just really feel that my kid should be taught an alphabet that I support

Not letting her teach hurts her deeply. She’s always felt like she’s an English teacher, ever since she was a toddler

She can still be an English teacher. And I don't get the comparison here tbh it's weird bc like trans women aren't providing a service or educating we're just vibing.

Refusing to let her teach your child is like saying she’s not really an English teacher!

If it's that important and I knew her then I'd send my kid and just talk to them afterwards

We are not emotionally manipulating you by not changing our perceptions of reality to one more in line with your own.

No, you are by insinuating that the way I live my life is abusive or dangerous...

Also, nor am I by not changing my perceptions to match yours

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh so you don’t support her? Guess you want her to kill herself.

I am not insinuating anything about you when I discuss large groups of people, such as half of the entire human population. You choose to respond as though everything in these discussions about you.

When you don’t concede we do not talk about our appearances and depression in order to garner a response that is not further critical of males in general.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm part of that group am I just supposed to assume you mean everyone but me?

And no, you just talk about how apparently all trans women hurt women and girls and how it's offensive to be a trans woman etc. Don't know how it's possible to not take that personally.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Please direct me to where I have stated that all transwomen are sexual predators or hurting anyone please.

I believe that gender ideology harms everyone, women and girls in particular. Queer theory hurts women. It is entirely possible to discuss ideas without claiming every single person who feels with those ideas to any degree is doing anything.