GC: How would you react if you saw a trans woman in the women's restroom?

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

I am as much a woman when I am asleep and under anesthesia as when I am awake and my brain is firing on all cylinders

So am I! I actually don't get why you keep saying I believe things I don't x(

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

It’s the only logical conclusion to this;

Like you can claim it's based on biology but really it's based on you feeling that your biology defines you and is meaningful.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I never said there was something wrong with you feeling that way. Just that it's not how I feel about myself.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

It’s not how I feel, it is what your own words implied.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I think I've lost you in the train of replies at this point haha, I'm sorry

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Then refer back to your own comment, and follow the definition of woman that you gave, through to its logical conclusion. You may prefer to operate on emotion but sometimes, logical analysis of your thoughts is a good thing.

It is the main way we grow as people.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

My definition isn't based on logic though

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Which makes it incompatible with the entirety of the world.

Try and think about if everyone else chose to base their definitions on their feelings. Not yours, I don’t want you to tell me how you feel about this.

What would happen if doctors chose to practice medicine according to how they feel? The doctor tells the patient that he doesn’t think they are in pain, or have an enlarged liver so no imaging or tests for patient. Biologically, the patient has a cancerous mass growing inside their liver.

Is this a doctor you want to see?

Imagine you are responsible for a child. Their teacher has taught the child that ckeorbxhsjxgnnsiv is the correct alphabet, because this is what the teacher feels is correct.

Are you happy to send your child into their class to learn the basics of English?

A kitten has a fractured leg. The veterinarian believes the kitten is a horse. Should he give the kitten a horse-sized dose of sedation? Is the kitten biologically capable of accepting the sedatives based on the perceptions or opinions of the vet?

What if someone feels that consent is something they feel and not an agreement from the other person? What if someone feels that homicide is defined as killing anyone they like?

Do you see how this is a senseless and potentially extremely harmful way to think?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Try and think about if everyone else chose to base their definitions on their feelings.

Everyone does, though. Everything is based on our perceptions or introspection of those perceptions

The doctor tells the patient that he doesn’t think they are in pain,

Well now the doctor is applying their feelings to the patient, that's different.

Are you happy to send your child into their class to learn the basics of English?

No, I would send my child elsewhere.

Should he give the kitten a horse-sized dose of sedation? Is the kitten biologically capable of accepting the sedatives based on the perceptions or opinions of the vet?

Yes, there could be a very good reason to do so that we just don't understand yet.

What if someone feels that consent is something they feel and not an agreement from the other person? What if someone feels that homicide is defined as killing anyone they like?

Both of these require direct interaction with others and their feelings too though. Someone is free to feel consent doesn't apply to them but not to impose that definition on others

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

No, they don’t. Insisting everyone thinks like you is becoming a real problem with communicating. You have already been told that other people do not define the world around them by how it makes them feel.

All these people are bad because they impose their definitions on others but you are doing just that by trying to tell me that I and everyone else think a certain way, and do things the way you do, for the same reasons you do.

If you have any animals I beg you to relinquish them to someone who would not allow someone to overdose them. If you give too much or too little of wormer or flea treatment you can harm or kill an animal. Those doses are species and size dependent.

Why would you send the child to a different teacher? What is wrong with them learning the alphabet from the original teacher?