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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I couldn't tell you whether it matters. You'd need to ask individual people. I've decided it's acceptable for me, if they decide it is for them too then they should be able to take hormones too.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Then why do you make these grand sweeping statements on behalf of other people that you cannot possibly know are true? Why do you dismiss things like future sexual function based solely on your personal repulsion?

You stated earlier that all children should be given hormones if requested despite surely knowing a child cannot comprehend what it means to give up their adult sexual functions, or to live with osteopenia.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Kids can do any number of other things that they cannot possibly comprehend the consequences of at the time. Driving a car, skipping school, drinking while underage, those are all decisions kids make that can greatly affect their life, right? And compared to many of those, taking hormones is pretty minor.

If you're going to try and make sure that kids who transition have considered all the possibilities, then you should also not let kids do anything else unless they've considered every possibility. And that's just totally absurd, you can't predict the future, you can only live in the present.

If someone tells me that they want to transition and they don't care about loss of sexual function then I don't need to hear more, I believe them. Why do you need to know more for this decision?

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Can we really compare the voluntary removal of sexual function and skipping school or getting drunk or driving a car? I can’t see how they are comparable.

In what way do you feel skipping a day of school and the inability to experience sexual desire or pleasure in ten years time are similar?

You have made some intriguing changes in your diktats here. first you decreed the only thing to do is give any child that requests them hormones because it doesn’t matter that they may never gain sexual function as adults because you do not take issue with a lack of sexual desire/function.

You were asked why you feel you can apply those feelings to others, and now you phrase the question as though all children can and have confirmed that they do indeed consent to this, and state that I am trying to make personal medical decisions for people. On the basis that I..what? Question a line of treatments as a whole?

Even if I possessed the capacity to control someone else’s healthcare, I’m not in favour of issuing sweeping gestures like totally allowing or disallowing things.

That’s not even touching on the neurodevelopmental stuff we’re skipping over, which would all indicate that a prepubescent child does not possess the capacity to make decisions for their adult selves.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not in favour of issuing sweeping gestures like totally allowing or disallowing things.

It's called bodily autonomy and it's absolute, so.

In what way do you feel skipping a day of school and the inability to experience sexual desire or pleasure in ten years time are similar?

Skipping school could be the cause of someone not going to college 4 years later and having a smaller income 10 years later, I think they're very similar decisions with huge effects. Also like not having sexual function is not a huge deal if you also lack sexual desire. Not if the alternative is having to have that desire in a body with parts you hate.