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[–]strictly 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I sometimes find it funny when for example American liberals vilify conservatives in more liberal countries as these conservatives might be more liberal than the American liberals criticizing them, conservative is a relative term. I also see a difference between collaboration in single issues and putting a group into power. If I was a politician I would for example have no problem voting against males participating in female sports and “help” people I otherwise disagree with outvoting the other side in this single issue, but I wouldn’t put my vote on a party I overall disagree with just because I agree with them on some trans related issues.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So do you think it’s possible to work with conservative politicians in one area without increasing their overall electability?

[–]strictly 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So do you think it’s possible to work with conservative politicians in one area without increasing their overall electability?

In some places being pro choice, pro same-sex marriage, pro democracy could be a conservative position, conservative fully depends on what what kind of values they want want to conserve, it’s a relative word. I think supporting values you agree with tend to increase the overall electability of these values, and I care about the actual values, not the label. If the so called "good guys" have homophobic values I can't vote on it will hopefully motivate them to become less homophobic in the future.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You don’t worry about unintentional consequences of giving conservatives messaging that only sounds feminist but will actually lead to the enforcement of legal gender codes