QT: why should "transwomen" be allowed into women's spaces at all?

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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

So every single time in your life you entered a female space and there was no male you actively felt discomfort? Why?

I would feel discomfort if I saw someone asking someone else to leave a public place when the other person isn't harassing or bothering anyone. In fact, I would ask that person to leave, because nothing is stopping me and if they can harass a person why can't I?

🎉OMG YOURE SO WOKE YOU HAD THE GUTS TO “CORRECT” YOUR OWN DADDY! PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK (because no one else gives a fuck, probably including your dad)

Yes and I will correct anyone, male or female. GCs claim the trans rights movement is a men's rights movement. If that's the case, why are women the ones supporting it and men aren't?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If males aren’t allowed in female spaces then there should be no males for a woman to have to ask to leave a female space so…

You wouldn’t have any basis for asking a female to leave a female space just because she spoke up for her rights.

Also- if a woman is bothered by a male in a space he doesn’t belong he is in fact bothering her just by being there.

That’s the thing- if women were protected and respected, that man would be in the wrong no matter what just for entering the space to begin with, and any woman would have every right to speak up.

Once again, that’s not the point. I very clearly asked “if you entered a female space and there were no males would you feel unsafe or any discomfort?” Why then, did you ignore that question and make up a scenario that has nothing to do with my question? Is it because you have no answer to my actual question that doesn’t prove my point? Deflection deflection deflection. All the time with you.

You didn’t correct anyone. You just forced your view point into yet another person. A view point you can’t back up. Can you prove to anyone, including your father, that are in fact women?

And according to you, I mean you LOVE pointing this out so idk how you forgot so quickly, SOME women are supporting it (as well as some men, just less men than women). Some doesn’t mean all. Or most (another thing I’ve reminded you of many times). It just means some. So I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make with that last question?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If males aren’t allowed in female spaces then there should be no males for a woman to have to ask to leave a female space so…

I disagree with the idea of male and female spaces so…

You wouldn’t have any basis for asking a female to leave a female space just because she spoke up for her rights.

Where are sex segregated spaces a right? Is it written in the constitution? In the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights? In the Geneva conventions? Nope.

In fact, in my state which is New York it's illegal to deny "the use of rest rooms, locker rooms, or other facilities consistent with a person's gender identity." There are even signs posted in front of bathrooms that people have the right to use the restroom that matches their gender identity and anyone who harasses a person on this basis will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I support this and I don't vote for politicians that don't support transgender rights.

https://dhr.ny.gov/genda

Also- if a woman is bothered by a male in a space he doesn’t belong he is in fact bothering her just by being there.

That's not the definition of bothering. Bothering is to annoy someone with petty provocation. If someone is not talking to you and not getting in your way, they are not bothering you. If you are bothered by someone's mere presence, that's your problem and not theirs.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your personal opinion isn’t really relevant to what we are discussing and you tend to cling to it when you have no argument. The world doesn’t revolve around you and it’s sad that you can’t engage with what people are saying without resorting to your opinions when you have no rebuttal lol

You understand the concept of sex based spaces as well as the issue we are discussing. So that whole second paragraph is meaningless. You know what we are discussing. It’s just fruitless to skirt around it.

It is, at the least, annoying as fuck when males enter female spaces. Their very presence is annoying (again, to say the least). It is my problem that males can disrupt my spaces. That’s what we are fighting against. So again, not sure what point you’re trying to make. I don’t even think you’re sure. You just repeat what they taught you to say lol