QT: why should "transwomen" be allowed into women's spaces at all?

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[–]loveSloaneDebate King 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

And the pages and pages I could provide would vastly outnumber your links. You can ignore it all you want, the whole world knows what I’m saying is true. It’s not even a claim denied by tras, so I’m not sure why you’re trying to avoid admitting it lol

It’s not being “banned from a public space”. Its being banned from a space in a public setting that is intended to be for the sex they are not. They can enter the public space the female space is in, they shouldn’t enter the specifically female space. Stop exaggerating.

No, men should not have a curfew. This is not related to the subject at all tho.

No, women with records shouldn’t be forced to use the space meant for the opposite sex. Because a criminal record has no bearing on the sex of the person with the record so wtf are you even thinking? Saying sex based spaces should remain sex based has nothing to do with this and you’re desperately reaching at this point lmao

Your condemnation means nothing but stay woke buddy

We don’t want to keep males out of female spaces just because they may cause harm. We want to keep males out of female spaces because they are male. As in, not female. It’s that simple.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

And the pages and pages I could provide would vastly outnumber your links. You can ignore it all you want, the whole world knows what I’m saying is true. It’s not even a claim denied by tras, so I’m not sure why you’re trying to avoid admitting it lol

I do agree men overall are more violent than women, but you can't ban someone from a public space because they have the potential to commit a crime. That's not how it works.

No, women with records shouldn’t be forced to use the space meant for the opposite sex.

But these women are more likely to assault other women, so by the same logic GCs use, they should be made to use men's spaces to reduce the risk for women who don't repeatedly offend.

Your condemnation means nothing but stay woke buddy

Harassing a trans person in the bathroom means jail time. In my state its illegal to harass people who use restrooms that don't align with their birth sex.

We don’t want to keep males out of female spaces just because they may cause harm. We want to keep males out of female spaces because they are male. As in, not female. It’s that simple.

Is this a constitutional right or a right declared elsewhere?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t want to ban them because they may be dangerous. I want to ban them because they should stay in the spaces meant for their sex. You can say whatever you want about not agreeing with sex based spaces, can even try to point out it’s not a constitutional right- they exist. Today they still exist. The purpose of their existence should be upheld because it’s the whole point. As I said, either abolish any concept of sex based anything or uphold them. It’s complete privilege and bullshit to allow specific men access to female spaces because they claim a sense of self they couldn’t begin to truly understand.

It’s not harassment to tell a man to get out of female spaces. They don’t belong there. They shouldn’t be there to begin with.

Sex is not a constitutional right. It’s a fact lol. It’s declared in nature, biology, everywhere. Lmao

[–]BiologyIsReal[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Harassing a trans person in the bathroom means jail time. In my state its illegal to harass people who use restrooms that don't align with their birth sex.

Do you understand that laws are not always fair and the likehood of them being unfair increases when they are discussed behind closed doors and the general public is fed a lot of lies or half truths?

Also, you're again extrapolating American politics into the rest of the world. I don't think this is very intersectional of you.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

That law is totally fair. I don't vote for politicians who do not support trans rights.

I don't know much about the rest of the world so I mainly speak about the US.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perfect example of you ignoring the things you can’t address.

Are you waiting for tra Twitter to feed you the party line about prisons before you acknowledge that part?

I know I’m inserting myself into another convo but I can’t not point out yet another instance of you ignoring the point/a question posed to you because you can’t handle it.

[–]BiologyIsReal[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You'd really benefit from learning more about the world. There are places in the world where women are sistematically hurt for a lack of access of sex-seggregated restrooms and here you are asking for no more women's spaces of any kind.