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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

You keep telling us how women (the kind that produces large gametes, you know) do NOT have a right to single-sex spaces, and yet here you are saying consent is important for queer theory. I mean, really?

Those are cis women. You can say the category.

Do you think Lia Thomas, who is sexually atracted to women, cares about consent went he exposes his intact male genitalia in the changing rooms despite the female swimmers have made clear their disconfort? Do you think the university staff care about consent when they tell the women to get over their disconfort?

Lia Thomas is a she. Anyway, if the cis female swimmers are uncomfortable changing around her, they should change in private. For this very reason locker rooms should have stalls instead of having everyone change out in the open. That way no one's genitalia is exposed. I just don't understand how changing in front of people you don't know became normalized. Just because someone is the same sex as you doesn't make it OK.

QTs are not against boundaries, we just have a different idea of boundaries than GCs. For instance, we think its harassment for a cis woman to tell a random trans woman in a restroom she doesn't belong. Since restrooms are separated by stalls, you already have all the privacy. I know the argument that a trans woman may implant a camera, which cis women are also capable of doing, but you can't ban someone from a public place because they might commit a crime. It doesn't work that way.

QTs feel trans women are women and trans men are men. Most QTs believe however no one is owed sex and rapists should be prosecuted. That's what I meant when I said queer theorists are not about breaking boundaries.

[–]Chocolatepudding 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If there is one thing that unites natal women regardless of anything else, it's an understanding of the fear of male violence, the unease about being undressed in close proximity to a man. Non-natal 'women' show themselves up a mile away because they don't understand this. Listen to yourself, silencing women who don't feel comfortable. Very patriarchal

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I am a natal woman and I don't understand this either. Also, how can I be silencing natal women when I'm a natal woman myself?

According to a PPRI study, only 40% of women support requiring trans people to use bathrooms corresponding to their assigned sex at birth. That means 60% of women, more than half, are OK with trans women in their restrooms. 51% of men support requiring transgender individuals people to use bathrooms corresponding to their assigned sex at birth. So cis men are more likely to think trans women don't belong in women's restrooms then cis women. Also, in every poll I find about this trans issues, they all have one thing in common. Regardless of percentage results or fluctuation, cis women are more likely to support trans rights than cis men. According to a poll, 59% of men support banning trans women in women's sports compared to 46% of women. 29% of men oppose banning trans women in women's sports compared to 34% of women. Men are more likely to agree with gender critical views then women.

r/GenderCynical, a sub meant to document and refute illogical GC arguments, was founded by a cis woman. I used to post there regularly on one of my Reddit accounts. Everyday Feminism was founded by Sandra Kim, an East Asian cis woman. She is the president of the site. She even wrote an article titled What Cis Folk Have In Common With Trans Folk. BabyCenter is a pregnancy and birth forum. The users there totally support transgender people, and will quickly call you the T-slur and shut you down if you express gender critical views. Visit the Debate Team and Bargain Hunters boards for proof.

[–]Chocolatepudding 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you don't understand it perhaps it's internalised misogyny? I don't know. You are a woman telling other women to just get over it and accept having their own personal boundaries crossed. And that it's all ok because opinion polls.