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[–]censorshipment 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

They're too hypersensitive, mentally fragile, and self-centered.

As a "natal female" with a masculine voice & appearance (I'm a gnc lesbian), I wouldn't even apply for a job where I might frighten timid (cisgender) women in need of assistance. I whole-heartedly believe that a facility like that is for only feminine (cisgender) women to work... they're easier to talk to by default based on their sex (female) and gender (femininity), especially if they're middle-aged women. Society automatically trusts a gender conforming, older (cisgender) woman. Older transgender women are walking red flags lol they're spooky.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I whole-heartedly believe that a facility like that is for only feminine (cisgender) women to work... they're easier to talk to by default based on their sex (female) and gender (femininity), especially if they're middle-aged women. Society automatically trusts a gender conforming, older (cisgender) woman.

I disagree with this completely. You are making a whole bunch of inaccurate and frankly insultingly sexist and ageist assumptions here about the ways that both the providers and clients of sexual violence prevention and recovery services look, behave and think - and worse, how all such persons should look, behave and think.

I fear that many - probably most - women who have worked in sexual violence prevention and recovery programs, as well as many female clients and beneficiaries, would fail to meet your standards of "cisgender femininity" - whatever the hell those standards are, and whatever the hell "cisgender femininity" supposedly means.

they're easier to talk to by default based on their sex (female) and gender (femininity), especially if they're middle-aged women.

Could've fooled me. Many of the easiest persons persons I've ever talked to about my own personal experiences with sexual violence have been women who by today's standards were definitely not "cisgender" or "feminine." Many have been lesbians who by today's standards would be considered quite butch; others are women whom I recall as neither here nor there where it comes to gender presentation and who would be hard to pigeonhole as either particularly "feminine" or "masculine." One woman, a pioneer in the area of sexual violence prevention and recovery in the 1970s, was a terrible dresser and clueless about proper "gender presentation" norms by anyone's standards; several participants in a therapy/support group she ran that I attended wondered aloud if she had no mirrors in her home and got dressed in the dark - which she found very amusing and took as a compliment. Some of the persons I've found easiest to speak to about sexual violence that I and other women have experienced in childhood, adolescence and/or adulthood weren't even female themselves!

As a "natal female" with a masculine voice & appearance (I'm a gnc lesbian), I wouldn't even apply for a job where I might frighten timid (cisgender) women in need of assistance

You seem to have a very low opinion of women you perceive as "cisgender." You seem to think that based on your perceptions of other women's outward appearance, and what you project onto other women based on your perhaps skewed and faulty perceptions of their outer appearance, that most/all women who in your view are different to you in terms of looks and affect must all be intolerant, heterosexual, "cisgender," "timid" ninnies who would be put off and, worse, frightened near to death by a "gnc lesbian." Because, you seem to believe, they all just have to be died-in-the wool homophobes and rubes who've never encountered any "gnc" women, lesbian or not, in their lives before. To my mind, your POV is the epitome of prejudice.

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You think GNC women should not be involved in helping survivors? That seems very restrictive. What about GNC women who feel more comfortable talking to other women like them? If I were assaulted, I would not be comfortable talking to a feminine woman about it.

[–]censorshipment 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think there should be special facilities for gnc women. 🤷

I have this issue when it comes to female therapists, tbh. I don't want to talk to a white woman, a straight woman, a feminine woman, nor a religious woman. I'd prefer a middle-aged gnc/masculine black lesbian atheist... lol but that's TOO specific, apparently, even tho I live near Atlanta where black lesbians (black women in general) thrive.

[–]worried19 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I get what you're saying about wanting to talk to a certain type of woman for your own comfort, but at the same time, I don't think GNC women should be othered. We're just as much female as feminine women are. We just don't conform to femininity. We don't need different bathrooms or locker rooms or therapy groups. We're women, too.