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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Do you just have some problem with people liking privacy from strangers more than you do?

I have a different view of privacy than you do. It's is actually more private for a woman to change alone in an enclosed stall with who knows who is in the next stall than it is to undress in the visibility of a bunch of other women. If I was anti-privacy, I wouldn't be pushing for stalls.

Are they supposed to magically instantly unlearn a lifetime of modesty norms? All to suit a fraction of the population?

There are lots of societal norms people need to unlearn. Also, modesty is not a right. If I was on a plane and a Hasidic man sitting next to me demanded I switch seats because it's against his religion to sit next to a woman, my ass is staying parked in the seat unless I get moved to 1st class for free. No one else on the plane would be obligated to switch seats for him.

[–]BiologyIsReal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Also, modesty is not a right

Doesn't this going against your wishes for enclosed stalls?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Modesty and privacy are different things.

[–]BiologyIsReal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/modesty?q=modesty

modesty

2 - the action of behaving or dressing so that you do not show your body or attract sexual attention

The word modesty is appropriate when talking about stalls. Some people may use your own words to justify why they are not necessary at all.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

OK then if you are in a stall, you are covered by definition. It doesn't matter who is peeing in the next stall or who is washing their hands near you.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Why doesn’t tra campaign for private stalls everywhere instead of campaigning to take away sexed spaces then?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm a TRA and I am campaigning for private stalls.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I didn’t ask about you. I asked why the rest of tra are instead demanding the end of sex segregated spaces.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We don't believe sex-segregated bathrooms and changing rooms should exist.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

On what grounds? What gives your wants more validity than ours?