Qt, Why is gender so important?

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes you. Who else? You could have participated in the debate and actually answered the question I initially posed, you could have continued to lurk, but you specifically decided to post a complaint that achieves nothing other than the exact sort of boast of moral superiority that you claimed I displayed.

I honestly dunno how that was unclear at all.

Repeating yourself with the “running off the qts” bit isn’t making it true. I personally have hobbies, you personally need a better one than lurking and coming out of the woodwork only to make an ass of yourself by doing the very act of performative superiority you’re having a sook about.

You (personally) should have thought a little bit more.

[–]beris😎 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Why would i answer a question not directed toward me? I think 'gender' is a load of bull, but if it lets trans people express themselves without denying biological fact then cool, good for them.

My complaint achieves exactly as much as yours does, or is yours actually magically better somehow? I'm not claiming moral superiority, just chuckling at how wildly laughable your "oh no i guess my points are too strong for the mean transes to debate me" comment is in a sub with no trans people left who arent licking boots.

Repeating yourself with the “running off the qts” bit isn’t making it true.

Correct. My repeating doesn't make it true. It just IS true. Or are you telling me they dont want to stay in a hostile 10-1 against them space with zero moderation on their behalf because they understand how much smarter you are than them and they'll never be able to beat you in an entirely unrigged internet debate?

You (personally) should have thought a little bit more.

The jab doesn't work unless you follow through with it all the way. You even literally said 'you personally' earlier in your post. Be consistent if you're gonna try to clap back, come on.

[–]BiologyIsReal 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Why would i answer a question not directed toward me? I think 'gender' is a load of bull, but if it lets trans people express themselves without denying biological fact then cool, good for them.

That is not going to happen. "Gender identity" is a concept made up to replace sex. Denying biological facts IS the point. That is why you have males competing in women's sports and accessing all sort of former women-only spaces from restrooms to prisons. That is why you have male criminals, including sexual offenders, being recorderd as "women". That is why you have female and male who identify as the opposite sex get their medical records changed without caring if that put their health or life in danger . That is why you have all the newspeak to not name women. That is why you have people acused of "transphobia" for basing their sexual orientation in sex rather than "gender identity". None of this has happened by accident. None of this has to do with expressing themselves. You don't need to identify out of your sex to express yourself.

[–]beris😎 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Okay? I don't disagree, but at the end of the day you can't be the thought police any more than they can. Seperating sex and gender while acknowledging sex is far better than blurring the lines so that sex can be misinterpreted. There's nothing more to it than that, you don't need to read deep into it.

[–]BiologyIsReal 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Okay? I don't disagree, but at the end of the day you can't be the thought police any more than they can.

So, does acknowledging basic facts as "there are only two sexes" and "humans can't change sex" qualify as thought policing now? You're trying really hard with this "both sides are bad" angle. If I made fun of flat Earth theories, would you say I'm thought policing, too?

Seperating sex and gender while acknowledging sex is far better than blurring the lines so that sex can be misinterpreted. There's nothing more to it than that, you don't need to read deep into it.

The point transactivists won't settle for recognizing both sex and "gender identity", just like they won't settle for third spaces. They have made pretty clear they don't want any sort of compromise. It's absurd you think we're toxic for refusing to entertain their ever-incressing demands, lies and threaths.

Edit: I fixed the quotes

[–]beris😎 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

it's absurd you think we're toxic for refusing to entertain their ever-incressing demands, lies and threaths.

Or maybe just that you actively maintain a hostile environment. You give gc users a slap on the wrist when they repeatedly break rules, you actively perform mental gymnastics to say direct harassment and bad-mouthing isn't against any rules, and just generally don't have any standards whatsoever with regards to moderating your own side. If you don't believe me, go into the moderator log and count how many times you've "warned" a gc user vs actually temporarily banned them.

[–]BiologyIsReal 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you aware I'd no ban a single QT user yet? Most of the bans I did was over a single spammer who likes to pose as QT. The other 3 or 4 were all alt right users. A GC dude have a meltdown because I didn't banned a QT user for some shitty comments that said user have said months ago. So much for being biased.

I'd have enough with this nonsense about how I don't bother moderating the GC side. If QT have have any complaint in regards to the moderation, they should talk with u/Porcelain_Quetzal, who is the QT mod. It's u/Porcelain_Quetzal who neither bother to mod here nor quit and look for another person to mod in their place.

[–]BiologyIsReal 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, I've a better idea. Given that you claim to be so fair to see the toxicity of both sides, why don't YOU become a mod too and fix the supposedly umbalanced moderation?