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[–]loveSloaneDebate King 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Commenting again because I’m bored af stuck at home with my baby and have nothing to do…

“This could allow for both gender and sex to coexist and be fairly and openly discussed.”

Ever notice how gender and sexuality were always able to coexist pretty seamlessly until tras decided that gender was personal? Gender and sex DO coexist in a way that can be fairly and openly discussed. The issue is that qt thinks that their personal (wrong) understanding of the word gender means something. Gender isn’t personal- it is societal and correlates to sex. Always. It’s literally defined by its relation to sex. The only reason we can’t discuss this is because qt/tra/some trans people can’t accept what gender means.

If we ignore qt/tras/some trans people, what issues do we have with discussing sex, gender, sexuality, sex based language, or biology clearly and accurately?

This is gonna sound rude and dismissive but I see no reason to adjust language for 1%. Especially when the reasoning isn’t fact or science based, it’s desperation based.

[–]comradeconradical[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hi, as a GC myself I agree with everything you and the other GC have written, as never before in history has there been such an issue with saying the words "woman" and "man" and understanding which people are being referred to.

However, though a small part of the population, the QT vernacular is becoming more and more pervasive. People get shut down for calling female humans "women", as you're likely aware. I personally would prefer if the small percentage would use reality-based language, however in current practice that seems unlikely. In that light I was trying to consider new terminology to encompass both sides, as trans and cis really don't do it for me and many GC.

I don't believe in gender, but for the people who do, I was thinking maybe these terms could at least keep biology and sex as a main pillar. Maybe I should have asked QT in particular, as they are the driving force of gender-based language.

Thank you for your replies :)