Qt/tra, how does identity form?

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You know people get treatment for personality disorders all the time, right? It’s absolutely possible to improve one’s understanding of themselves and one’s deeply seated, formative ideas that are shit.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You can’t change your core. You can learn to cope. You can learn to understand the state your in but you can’t untraimatize a brain.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Tell that to people with BPD who successfully do DBT. Tell that to trauma survivors who had defined themselves by their trauma and no longer do. Tell that to ED patients terrified and ashamed of having human needs, they’ll never learn better.

Goddamn, the way you insist that because you aren’t well, nobody else ever will be, is so fucked up I can’t even begin to tell you.

Thousands of traumatised people move on every day. Your choice to be miserable doesn’t make their successes a lie.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

You don’t stop having BPD or Being traumatized. You learn to cope or medicate but you don’t just stop. Coping mechanisms like say changing your body to better fit yourself for taking medication to feel better. Like transition.

I don’t know what you mean by the ED part. I’m assuming you don’t mean Ehlers Danlos.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Eating disorders, specifically the severe and enduring kind.

So, you’re telling me that even though I no longer think about my abuse, or respond like it’s going to happen, no longer have any trauma symptoms and have retrained my automatic thoughts so they are no longer ones that are an abuse response, even though two psychiatrists have since deemed me no longer meeting the symptoms of cptsd, I still have it?
You’re saying nobody ever actually heals, and all anybody can hope for is a coping tool Band-Aid?

You can say that but you need to stop claiming it’s the truth for anyone but you. It’s honestly really awful to say about others. People with personality disorders often work really hard for years to get better and you’re saying they’re all hopeless.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

eating disorders

Thank you. Kind of sad I didn’t think of that given I have one.

To the second paragraph I’m not telling you what you experince but basically yeah. No one ever heals. You learn to cope or medicate. You don’t fix a broken brain, you learn to work broken.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What a horrible thing to say to others. It’s potentially sabotaging recovery to tell someone they cannot get better. Shame on you.

[–]Juniperius 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure you do. It's very common as people get older and go through treatment for their therapist to say they "no longer fit the diagnostic criteria for BPD," for example.