GC: What do you think about the concept of peaking people?

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I don't know if I have ever really peaked anyone. I would like to think that maybe I've gotten people who know I'm trans to give thought to trans rights activism and gender ideology, just by not going along with it and criticizing it. For those who don't know I'm trans, I think it's not something I would really dare to bring up or talk about for fear of being labelled a transphobe and facing the negative reaction that label permits. I never talk about pronouns or gender identity or even gender really, just biological sex when it's relevant, avoiding enabling or reinforcing QT and pro-trans rhetoric or ideological beliefs.

But I agree with other commenters, I don't think there really is that much one has to do to peak people other than sort of gently guide them to see the problem themselves just by presenting it without much explanation. At least for people who are impartial. To peak QT-leaning people, I'm not sure what that takes--perhaps something more drastic?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think people who are QT leaning will eventually either peak/be peaked by something themselves on accident. I peaked myself on accident lol

I think if they are challenged in person, and have to attempt to answer the questions we always dissect here, they’d maybe question things, or at least themselves. I questioned how I couldn’t understand something they expected me to understand… and here I am now lol

Also, can I ask a semi tangential question? What does it feel like to be trans and accused of being transphobic (if that’s ever happened)?

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That makes sense, I can believe it since that's kind of what happened to me, too. All they (the trans community) had to do was tell me to respect pronouns at all costs and inadvertently point me in the direction of Ovarit.

QT doesn't seem particularly conducive to thoughtfulness, as in like really sitting and thinking about things, because you're right, questioning things doesn't seem encouraged despite appearing like it does. And if one does question aspects of it, they do indeed seem to end up in places like this 😉

That's definitely happened online, thanks to the no-good, dirty radfems who have brainwashed me 🙄 I kind of just laugh it off, it gets annoying otherwise. Although it's exasperating sometimes since it doesn't take much to be accused of being transphobic and totally shut out, which is actually the kind of thing that helped peak me. And to be fair, because I do question everything I do ask myself if I am being transphobic--I suppose I am, or appear so, since I criticize and have some very strong negative feelings about transgenderism and gender ideology. Not towards the people themselves, or at least the people who aren't hurting others. It hasn't really happened since I quit being so active on Reddit and don't post in any trans subs really.

[–]worried19[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm sure you have peaked some people through your YouTube channel! I wish I was brave enough to have one. But I like my privacy too much.

To peak QT-leaning people, I'm not sure what that takes--perhaps something more drastic?

I think they need to be shown that there are concrete harms.

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Aww well that's very kind and optimistic of you, thanks! That would be nice. And I really can't blame you for wanting to maintain your privacy, I'd feel the same if everything hadn't sort of taken a life of its own lol

That is absolutely what makes me so worried, Worried... what kind of undeniable harm will it take? If amputations, irreversible surgical procedures that are regretted; exogenous cross-sex hormones that cause developmental abnormalities and health problems; biological males in women's shelters, prisons, restrooms, spas, sports, etc.; medical and even social transition of kids that will affect them the rest of their lives aren't enough to make people stop and think about all of this and more, it's scary to think what would.