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[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

You can recast my posts and make assumptions about my motivation all you want, but bottom line is CMOV2 took every opportunity to talk about his/her/whatever/thems/its/Idon'tknowactually victim blaming and you can interpret that as not a viiolation of a rule. But why are you telling me to stop pointing it out? Is calling out victim blaming and rape apology and all the other rule violations CMOV2 committed in those actions against the rules? You could lock a topic if you don't like the discussion, but instead you want to protect CMOV2 from being reminded of what a POS CMOV2 is. Good luck keeping the cesspool muy cessy. Rationalize it all you want. you could have banned a monster for victim blaming you you'd rather pretend there is some other context that invalidates that reality.

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Oh, my goodness, get off your high horse, dude! I'm NOT protecting circling. I don't give a damn about circling. I absolutely cannot stand circling. Anyone who have read our many argurments would realize this obvious fact.

Moreover, I didn't call you out for pointing out circling's victing blaming (way to twist my words, dude). I call you out because you are claiming that I'm either protecting circling (why the heck would I do that?) or I'm too stupid to realize who is the wrong here. And you're conveniently ignoring the fact I didn't call out all the other people calling out circling for circling's shitty behaviour.

Futhermore, you're also ignoring I'm usually pretty quick in intervening once arguments here starts to get more heated up than usual. Once insults and personal attacks begins comments get deleted and warnings are issuednot matter who is doing it because in my experience things can only go down hill from there. I do this precisely so this place doesn't become a cesspool. I cannot make special exceptions for some people just because I happen to agree more with them.

And why are you singling me out in this mess, anyway? Why aren't you also complaining about this with grixit or peaking, too? I'm really tired that I'm always the one who gets blamed for everything that happens here just because I'm the most active mod!

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Who's acting like the martyr now? You're not being blamed for anything other than ignoring CMOV2's victim blaming and how those statements can all be rolled into other rule violations. You're the one telling me to leave CMOV2's transgressions alone, not the absentee mods. Should I go find them? No, they're not intervening.

You are the one who chose to both not ban the rape apologizing victim blamer and ask me to stop bringing it up to CMOV2. You also pretend to not see that as protecting CMOV2. It's a cesspool not a pool, COV2 is part of what makes it a cesspool and not pool.

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

The last part was not only about you, but thanks to prove my point, anyway. You're singling me out because I was the one who intervened. You didn't think of complainig to either u/grixit or u/peakingatthemoment about circling's recent behaviour even though both of them were mods when circling's original comments happened months ago. And peaking it's not absentee, at least.

And again, you're ignoring I didn't call out all the other users who called out circling for circling's shitty behaviour. You're ignoring the circling's comments that I deleted. You're ignoring I gave circling an ultimatum. You're ignoring I asked u/Houseplant whether she wanted circling banned for all the horrible things circling said to her and that she rejected my offert and that she said circling was useful as an example of how GC is right.

Anyway, it's funny you are complaing about how I'm allowing this place to be a cesspool in the very same thread where circling argued I was unfit to be a mod. I guess you two do agree on something.

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I don't see how you think I should call out other mods when they seem perfectly fine with me calling out circling and you were the one telling me to leave circling alone about their rule breaking. You took it up with me, I did not seek address you with regard to circling's rule breaking until you wanted me to leave circling alone. The other mods are ignoring the whole shit-show maybe because they like cess pools.

Is circling's victim blaming against the rules or not? You said report posts, I did. The posts were still excusing the original victim blaming and rape apology. Just because circling performed that victim blaming and rape apology under the guise of responding AFTER you told circling to stop only means you've been duped.

I also think you miss the point about circling saying you'r unfit to be a mod BECAUSE of Cirlcing's rule breaking. I maintain that it already is an act of calling attention to the previous rape apology and victim blaming. Circling's actions on both counts are not separate from the original post about you, it is part of it. OF course circling would what to get away with breaking the rules while somehow saying you're unfit to mod, it's par for the course.

But bottom line is: circling broke the rules, you pretended it was "all you kids cut it out", and you protect circling. Circling should be banned. I reported some of Circling's posts breaking rules labeled them victim blaming.

You want to say "I'm the only one doing anything here" but what are you doing? Protecting a rape apologist and a victim blamer-- unless you can somehow say Circling isn't that but I see no repentance or change of heart or actual heart in Circling's posts in the matter. Circling remains a rape aplogist and victim blamer, and circling's recent posts claiming to be misconstrued is one (ridiculous) thing, but when Circling invites people to go back and look at the original posts that is reenacting the original offenses. What will happen when they go back and read them? The same offense that happened originally will happen each time someone reads the original posts, so how is that not repeating the offense?

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

What the heck?! Dude, seriously you're being as ridiculous as circling! How am I protecting circling when I deleted circling's comments and made circling shut up about the issue under the threath of banning circling?!

And I called you out because you were breaking other rules. Again I cannot make special exeptions for some people. Why do you think I didn't called out u/loveSloane, u/MarkTwainiac or u/Omina_Sentenziosa, none of whom had any good thing to say about circling's victim blaming?

but when Circling invites people to go back and look at the original posts that is reenacting the original offenses. What will happen when they go back and read them? The same offense that happened originally will happen each time someone reads the original posts, so how is that not repeating the offense?

LoL That is completely farfetched! However absurd circling's perception of what said back then is, someone reading circling's offensive comments from months ago is not circling's repeating the offense. Under that stupid logic you're circling's accomplice because you kept bring up the issue and gave circling an excuse to keep talking about it. And I guess I must be an accomplice too because I was the one who linked the original conversation. Ridiculous!

Anyway, what is you plan here? Do you plan to keep making an spectacle of yourself and saying outrageous things about me until I either ban circling or I ban you with the latter likely resulting in you keep saying elsewhere that I protected a rape apologist? How are you any but a bully?

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

What rule did I break?

why would you threaten to ban circling? Did they break the rules, or just piss you off?

Part of why you told me to stop was I was being repetitive, You're repeating yourself now over and over.

Also why keep this stupid back-and-forth going when you ain't budging and I ain't budging. You're wrong. You think you're not. You whine I'm bringing this BS to you when you're the one that first told me to stop. You aint' winning anywhere but in your head. I'm good to let it go, maybe you also want the last word. I really think you're wrong here and the more you try to justify your bullshit the more inconsistent you seem. Like I said: enjoy the cesspool.

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Do I have to spell it for you? The rule about no personal attacks. Why did you think I mentioned that comments gets deleted and warnings are made once once the insults and personal attacks starts?

I did not start this. You're the one who started it by accusing me of protecting circling just because I did not do the exact thing you wanted. And you expect I stay quiet while you keep saying ourageous things about me? And you have put me in a position where if I mod against you now for your nonsense you would use against me to "prove" I'm "protecting" circling. And you expect I stay quiet? How more ridiculous are you going to get? And based on your past behaviour it's likely you're going to keep bringing up the "BIR protected a rape apologist" bullshit, anyway. So, why should I stay quiet?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not you being accused of defending the person who made a post because they felt attacked by you? On the post made to complain about you? By the person you’re being accused of defending?

Surely that’s not what’s actually happening right now?

Lmao Im sorry you’re dealing with all of this. You’re a wonderful mod and certainly the most present by far.

[–]BiologyIsReal 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Well, you see, I didn't ban circling. So, that means I protecting circling, you know? Nevermind that I asked houseplant if she wanted circling baned. Or that I told circling to stop trying to explain away the victim blaming if circling didn't want to get baned. But you know, details...

Oh, but it gets better. Apparently if I don't ban circling, then I should ban Flippy because the latter don't want to be in the same group than circling...

I swear this whole thread feels like a comedy movie by now.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why don’t we just ask masks if they feel like you’re defending them?

Surly that would squash this whole argument pretty quickly?