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[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Ridiculous except for the part about circling continuing to discuss it and makes excuses for it and mischaracterize it every time circling says circling is not allowed to discuss it.

Also, I agree she made her decision. I suggested it I think once and not since. I mentioned it to you once previously. I'm not like browbeating her into changing her mind. She's capable of reassessing that decision whenever circumstances change. But, as you see she had already left once already (edited to add once already) because of inaction regarding cmov2/masks.

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

You can drop the subject now. Every comment has a handy report button. Use it when appropriate instead of implying I'm protecting circling just because I cannot be available 24/7.

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

fair enough, I reported a number of examples of victim blaming. One might not appear to be that, but it is a call for people to go back and look at what was originally said to Catbug, which was victim blaming. So, that one by being a direct reference to the original incident is a repetition of the original incident.

If you think this is a question of unruly children needing a parent to separate them or send them all into time out, I think you are misreading. I think this is a case of one member trying to make this place unreasonable, the thread where all this occurs a case of that member making an accusation against you in spite of the common knowledge of what that member did and thus calling attention to it again. This is TRA tactics in a microcosm, make everything unbearable so that they are all that is left in any "public" spaces.

If repeated victim blaming is not bannable, or if you think that is not what is going on here, then ban me from the cesspool and I'll contemplate the differences between moderation and well reasoned enforcement of rules, a difference between civility and decency.

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Dude, I'm not going to ban you just because you've put into your head to enact a scenary where you're a martym who feels morally superior to the misguided mod who "chose" to "protect" circling over other members of the sub.

Like I said, circling's orginal comments happened before I became a mod. For better or worse, what is done is done and there is no point in re-modding over incidents that happened moths ago. However, I gave Houseplant the opportunity to choose whether to ban circling since she was the one affected over circling's comments, but she rejected it. Circling has repeated circling's points recently, and that is why comments were deleted and I gave circling an ultimatum. You can drop this baseless idea that I'm going easy on circling now

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

You can recast my posts and make assumptions about my motivation all you want, but bottom line is CMOV2 took every opportunity to talk about his/her/whatever/thems/its/Idon'tknowactually victim blaming and you can interpret that as not a viiolation of a rule. But why are you telling me to stop pointing it out? Is calling out victim blaming and rape apology and all the other rule violations CMOV2 committed in those actions against the rules? You could lock a topic if you don't like the discussion, but instead you want to protect CMOV2 from being reminded of what a POS CMOV2 is. Good luck keeping the cesspool muy cessy. Rationalize it all you want. you could have banned a monster for victim blaming you you'd rather pretend there is some other context that invalidates that reality.

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Oh, my goodness, get off your high horse, dude! I'm NOT protecting circling. I don't give a damn about circling. I absolutely cannot stand circling. Anyone who have read our many argurments would realize this obvious fact.

Moreover, I didn't call you out for pointing out circling's victing blaming (way to twist my words, dude). I call you out because you are claiming that I'm either protecting circling (why the heck would I do that?) or I'm too stupid to realize who is the wrong here. And you're conveniently ignoring the fact I didn't call out all the other people calling out circling for circling's shitty behaviour.

Futhermore, you're also ignoring I'm usually pretty quick in intervening once arguments here starts to get more heated up than usual. Once insults and personal attacks begins comments get deleted and warnings are issuednot matter who is doing it because in my experience things can only go down hill from there. I do this precisely so this place doesn't become a cesspool. I cannot make special exceptions for some people just because I happen to agree more with them.

And why are you singling me out in this mess, anyway? Why aren't you also complaining about this with grixit or peaking, too? I'm really tired that I'm always the one who gets blamed for everything that happens here just because I'm the most active mod!

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Who's acting like the martyr now? You're not being blamed for anything other than ignoring CMOV2's victim blaming and how those statements can all be rolled into other rule violations. You're the one telling me to leave CMOV2's transgressions alone, not the absentee mods. Should I go find them? No, they're not intervening.

You are the one who chose to both not ban the rape apologizing victim blamer and ask me to stop bringing it up to CMOV2. You also pretend to not see that as protecting CMOV2. It's a cesspool not a pool, COV2 is part of what makes it a cesspool and not pool.

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

The last part was not only about you, but thanks to prove my point, anyway. You're singling me out because I was the one who intervened. You didn't think of complainig to either u/grixit or u/peakingatthemoment about circling's recent behaviour even though both of them were mods when circling's original comments happened months ago. And peaking it's not absentee, at least.

And again, you're ignoring I didn't call out all the other users who called out circling for circling's shitty behaviour. You're ignoring the circling's comments that I deleted. You're ignoring I gave circling an ultimatum. You're ignoring I asked u/Houseplant whether she wanted circling banned for all the horrible things circling said to her and that she rejected my offert and that she said circling was useful as an example of how GC is right.

Anyway, it's funny you are complaing about how I'm allowing this place to be a cesspool in the very same thread where circling argued I was unfit to be a mod. I guess you two do agree on something.

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I don't see how you think I should call out other mods when they seem perfectly fine with me calling out circling and you were the one telling me to leave circling alone about their rule breaking. You took it up with me, I did not seek address you with regard to circling's rule breaking until you wanted me to leave circling alone. The other mods are ignoring the whole shit-show maybe because they like cess pools.

Is circling's victim blaming against the rules or not? You said report posts, I did. The posts were still excusing the original victim blaming and rape apology. Just because circling performed that victim blaming and rape apology under the guise of responding AFTER you told circling to stop only means you've been duped.

I also think you miss the point about circling saying you'r unfit to be a mod BECAUSE of Cirlcing's rule breaking. I maintain that it already is an act of calling attention to the previous rape apology and victim blaming. Circling's actions on both counts are not separate from the original post about you, it is part of it. OF course circling would what to get away with breaking the rules while somehow saying you're unfit to mod, it's par for the course.

But bottom line is: circling broke the rules, you pretended it was "all you kids cut it out", and you protect circling. Circling should be banned. I reported some of Circling's posts breaking rules labeled them victim blaming.

You want to say "I'm the only one doing anything here" but what are you doing? Protecting a rape apologist and a victim blamer-- unless you can somehow say Circling isn't that but I see no repentance or change of heart or actual heart in Circling's posts in the matter. Circling remains a rape aplogist and victim blamer, and circling's recent posts claiming to be misconstrued is one (ridiculous) thing, but when Circling invites people to go back and look at the original posts that is reenacting the original offenses. What will happen when they go back and read them? The same offense that happened originally will happen each time someone reads the original posts, so how is that not repeating the offense?

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

What the heck?! Dude, seriously you're being as ridiculous as circling! How am I protecting circling when I deleted circling's comments and made circling shut up about the issue under the threath of banning circling?!

And I called you out because you were breaking other rules. Again I cannot make special exeptions for some people. Why do you think I didn't called out u/loveSloane, u/MarkTwainiac or u/Omina_Sentenziosa, none of whom had any good thing to say about circling's victim blaming?

but when Circling invites people to go back and look at the original posts that is reenacting the original offenses. What will happen when they go back and read them? The same offense that happened originally will happen each time someone reads the original posts, so how is that not repeating the offense?

LoL That is completely farfetched! However absurd circling's perception of what said back then is, someone reading circling's offensive comments from months ago is not circling's repeating the offense. Under that stupid logic you're circling's accomplice because you kept bring up the issue and gave circling an excuse to keep talking about it. And I guess I must be an accomplice too because I was the one who linked the original conversation. Ridiculous!

Anyway, what is you plan here? Do you plan to keep making an spectacle of yourself and saying outrageous things about me until I either ban circling or I ban you with the latter likely resulting in you keep saying elsewhere that I protected a rape apologist? How are you any but a bully?