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[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think any fuzziness in what I wrote is because Gender is bullshit and using it makes everything fuzzy. I'm OK with not using it at all.

Obviously the word has a meaning, their actions reveal as much, even if their words don't.

That's how it might appear to be, but it's not necessarily true. If the word had a clear meaning, that would stand on its own regardless of their actions. Their actions reveal something about themselves, not the language they use.

then even "transgender people with a gender identity that doesn't match their sex" needs to be changed to "transsexuals with a sex identity that doesn't match their sex". Please use '"sex" yourself first, consistently, before urging others to do so.

Well, at the end there you're just being disingenuous (edited in hopes of better reflecting the mod's sense of proper decorum). How can I be talking about what bullshit gender is as word if I do not use it? Should I have typed "that which we will not say" each time I typed "gender"? But you are making a straw man: My use of the term in talking about your use of the term does not mean I'm conferring any meaning, fuzzy or otherwise, to it. We could replace South Park's "Marklar" with gender, it would not mean Marklar has a clear meaning. Gender is not used, by anyone it seems, in such a way that it has a clear meaning, other than when they use it to mean some attribute they claim to have.

They are not transexuals unless they had surgery, so we are not talking about transexuals most of the time. They do call themselves transgender, most of "them" have not had surgery. What term would you use, or are you saying we should conflate transexuals who had surgery with those who LARP as the other sex?

[–]SnowAssMan 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

How can I be talking about what bullshit gender is as word if I do not use it?

"How do I prove that a flute isn't a hammer without constantly using a flute to hammer nails into the wall, thereby convincing everyone but myself that I think it's a hammer?"

Just follow your own standards & stop using gender, & yes, that includes "transgender". The trans cult don't hold a patent on the word & you haven't been employed to enforce it. I can use gender the way everyone else does: to mean biological sex.

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Then you are ignoring the meaning of the word and what "GC" is critical of. In the GCdebatesQT sub, you are on team "uses fuzzy language that obfuscates the crux of the debate". The name of the sub should be changed to include your side in that debate.

[–]SnowAssMan 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gender has two meanings (predominantly: male/female, or to a lesser extent: masculinity/femininity), which can be found in everyday language, in academia, in the dictionary, everywhere, since at least the 1880s, apparently. So you're asking me to ignore the meanings of the word & allow the gender-swap cult to appropriate it. As for the name of the sub, QT & GC don't agree on the definition of gender, that's a major part of the contention. According to QT gender = gender identity = the desire to be the opposite sex proves you are the opposite sex. So I assume "GC" either refers to being critical of this definition, since GC is a reaction to QT, alternatively "GC" could refer to being critical of masculinity/femininity.