QT: Is there such a thing as a man wants to be a woman? + 10 additional questions

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[–]a_green_squidtransmed i guess? 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

1 - Sure, probably.

2 - 99% of the time it's what they have in their pants.

3 - Because it works? Why are anti-depressants sometimes used to treat ANXIETY instead of DEPRESSION?

4 - And you can prove this with stats that don't come from that one single GC think tank, right?

5 - Sucks to be them I guess, if you don't pass, you're living as whatever people see you as. If you're in a super liberal place maybe that's just a TW, if you aren't then probably not.

6 - So does neuroplasticity only exist when you guys want it to exist?

7 - IDK. It's not my fault language is changing and leaving you behind. It's just as much not my job to coddle you as it is not your job to coddle me.

8 - Literally only you guys see it as erasure, so no.

9a - They don't. The only people 'studying' desistance are people looking for those statistics, and use scummy ways to pad them like counting people who 'leave their clinic' for any reason as desisters.

b - Your guess is as good as mine. I'd be more than all for putting money into better vetting out young trans people, because it's still nowhere near perfect, but that's not the way the world works.

10 - No.

[–]SnowAssMan[S] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

1- that's certainly the GC view of men like Bruce Jenner

2- and the other 1%? does the difference suddenly change for them?

3- cross-sex hormones don't cure dysphoria, only desistance can do that, which transition hampers.

4- just do a google image search for "transgender sex offender", or is google images also a GC think tank?

5- ...I mean, that's the truscum view

6- again if brainsex is evidence of identity then either HSTS' are all gay guys, or all gay guys are women. The alternative is to chuck out the "evidence" & dispose of the "brainsex" argument altogether.

7- I think you mean law rather than language, since everyone still uses gender to refer to the sexes.

8- how is making every single-sex term unisex not erasure of the female sex?

9a- but even the DSM-V quotes a high desistance rate. is the highest scientific authority on the topic wrong? are you the authority? or is self-ID ideology anti-science?

b- according to the DSM-V up to 100% of early-onset dysphorics desist. Surely we should be looking into what is hindering the remainder from desisting, instead of assuming that "young trans people" are a real thing.

10- a wholly GC view

(I obviously asked too many questions. Apologies at all)

[–]a_green_squidtransmed i guess? 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

(I obviously asked too many questions. Apologies at all)

TBH, I'm sitting here stuck in an airport with nothing but a laptop because my flight was cancelled, this is the most fun I'm getting tonight. There's almost no way in hell I'm coming back to it when I'm home but it's fun while it's here, you know?

1 - okay? I mean, it's my view too, so cool.

3 - You're right, CSHT doesn't CURE dysphoria, it TREATS dysphoria. Which is why I didn't use the word 'cure'. Because as far as modern psychology knows, there is no cure. Which is why I'd absolutely fucking love to see your sources saying 'only desistance' can cure dysphoria. Please.

5 - And I'm truscum, who would have guessed.

9 - Bud, I know haven't actually read the DSM 5, but at least try to pretend like you have.

10 - Sorry, I just find this funny that, like, you're somehow okay with it because it falls in line with your own views. You don't have to respond to things you agree with, you know.

[–]SnowAssMan[S] 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

3- Desistance is literally defined as lack of dysphoria i.e. it cures it https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.632784/full

9- It's not necessary to read all of the DSM-V, only the parts on gender dysphoria. One of the sources it quoted had a 100% desistance rate. The lowest stat I've seen was still over 60%.

10- it's just inconsistent with QT ideology. I'm not going to assume you knew that.