GC: Are men entitled to male-only spaces?

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[–]BiologyIsReal 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because, while transsexualism and transgenderism weren't invented only by Americans, transgender ideology (or identity politics in general) is very American centric and it has not only reached other English speaking countries, but also many other countries to different degrees. I explained the use gender in Spanish because that was what we were discussing, but many other English "inclusive" terms has been adopted or literally translated into Spanish by TRA from Spanish speaking countries. And they also parrot the same taking points than English speakers. I admit that part of my disgust from the word gender comes from the fact I see it as something that has been imposed from the outside.

Yes, I think talking about sex rather using gender as euphemism should make things clearer. And that is why I don't understand your insistence on using the word gender to mean sex. It's not like nobody would understand what you mean if you say sex, well, other than some harcore TRA I mean. And I neither understand why you think using (also) a non biological definition for woman and man is useful when that is exactly what has lead to the many laws allowing "legal sex changes". Again, my problem is not only with self-ID, but any law making a man legally a "woman" regardless of any meaningless requirement they ask for.

[–]SnowAssMan 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I completely sympathise with being the victim of American cultural imperialism. It's even worse in the English-speaking world bc American garbage can seep in unnoticed a lot easier.

I'm not going to hand the self-ID cult 'gender', bc it would be giving them legitimacy & integrity. The word gender is used 99% of the time to refer to sex, while the word sex is used 99% of the time to refer to sexual intercourse. By favouring the use of sex over gender I'm basically speaking a different dialect to everyone else. This is why the clown cult appropriates terms already in circulation, it gives their ideology more currency. Notice how they call women & girls "natal female" or "assigned female", while never including a qualifier when describing someone like Bruce Jenner as female. It's important to be steadfast & not capitulate on this. They haven't got a word or definition for what they are talking about, which is why they coops the word gender & hope to ride in on their trojan horse that way.

In Spanish it makes sense to abolish the word, it doesn't in English though, bc in doing so we'll merely be erasing the sexes (bc we'll have no way of referring to them apart from "assigned birth sex" or something equally ludicrous).

Socialisation is firmly anchored to sex, so rather than creating an opening for role-play to replace identity the concept of socialisation only further undermines it. Clearly they are more invested in proving that they can change sex via their supposed brainsex, or cross-sex hormones in addition to creating the notion that "sex is a spectrum". Does that mean focusing on biological sex to define girls & women should be abandoned for giving gender-minstrels good innings? Of course not. Because their interpretations are a complete twisting of the truth, same goes for socialisation.