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[–]womanual[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course the anti-slavery movement, civil rights movement, women's rights movements, and gay and lesbian rights movements all challenged laws and social conventions, but they did not seek to remove from any single group the right to bodily privacy from the opposite sex when using public or communal toilets, change rooms, locker rooms or showers.

Men have bodily privacy regardless. We women aren't the ones raping or even sexually harassing them.

When women entered previously all-male domains such as previously male-only colleges and universities, we sought - and obtained - equal access to the classrooms, libraries, labs, dining halls, student unions, sports facilities, etc

Colleges and universities were once male only spaces. The reason why women have equal access to them is because we forced entry into those spaces.

but we did not seek to make the men's toilets, showers, locker rooms and sports teams all mixed sex. We sought and obtained our own.

The reason we soughht and obtained our own facilities is not because we care about men's privacy, it's because these are places where women undress and are vulnerable and men don't know how to act. Women don't sexually harass men so men don't need their own facilities.

Just as TRAs want to remove bodily privacy rights from female people, you want to remove bodily privacy rights from male people. You and the TRAs are just flip sides of the same coin.

OK, so? I don't care about male people. It's not like they need their own spaces to begin with, with the exception of gay men as gay men are a marginalized group.

Moreover, you are overlooking the practical realities. The half of the population you want to remove bodily privacy rights from just so happen to be the group that wield the most political power in society, and they are also the half of the population with bodies that are bigger and stronger than female bodies, and who have a far, far greater propensity for aggression, violence, sexual predation, territoriality, weaponry, warfare and physical fighting.

My solution is to give women more power. I carry a gun and pepper spray. I vote for female politicians only. Ever since I turned 18 in 2000 I have never voted for a single male. Even in federal, state and local elections. I always pick a woman. Even this presidential election, I voted for a 3rd party candidate since neither Trump and Biden are women. For local elections, I research which female politician is most likely to win and vote for her. I am also trained in self-defense and do MMA. More women need to do this.

I fear that pushing to remove bodily privacy rights from boys and men whilst asserting and ring fencing those rights solely for girls and women will result in a huge backlash - and thus will undermine rather than advance the safety, privacy, bodily autonomy, wellbeing and liberation of girls and women.

Does affirmative action get the same reaction?