GC: Are men entitled to male-only spaces?

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[–]BiologyIsReal 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As long we're talking about spaces where sex matters because of privacy, health care, sports or dating, yes. For other type of settings, I'm not willing to say are entitled to them because men likely may turn our arguments upside down to bar women from the public sphere.

[–]womanual[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not willing to say are entitled to them because men likely may turn our arguments upside down to bar women from the public sphere.

They can whine all they want, but in the end it's not the same thing.

Take the n-word for instance. The n-word has a long racist history. Many Black people reclaimed the word, and there is even a debate in the black community about whether the word should be reclaimed. But no matter what black people are doing, white people cannot say the n-word or have a say in the conversation about reclaiming the n-word. Some white people (and non-black POC) think it's not fair black people can say the n-word but they can't. But that doesn't change the fact that they can't say the n-word. The same reason why the n-word is racist but cracker isn't. The same reason we have a women's month but not a men's month. The same reason we have a LGB pride parade but not a straight pride parade. The same reason there is no such thing as "reverse racism" or "reverse sexism."

Men can cry me a river if they have a problem with it. But honestly after years of being sexualized, objectified and patronized by men I don't give two shits about what they think. You have a different opinion, and that's OK. But I hope men don't get the same legal protections women get when it comes to their spaces. Gavin Grimm should have been allowed to use boy's facilities. Men simply don't need the protections that women do. And that is the fault of men, as they are the ones raping and beating women. Women don't do these things systematically to men, and there is not a single case on the news of a woman raping an adult man.