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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

it is simply not possible that they were writing this character as trans

If it’s not discussed it is possible. Lilly Elbe in the 30’s. Jorgensen in the 50’s. Unlikely certainly but not impossible. You assume the character isn’t trans.

The same actor portrayed the owner of a saloon in the old west in The Sisters Brothers: I don' t remember much of that movie, so maybe I am mistaken, but I seem to remember that everyone was treating him as if he were female, not male identifying as female.

And how does one treat a woman as opposed to a trans woman exactly?

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If it’s not discussed it is possible. Lilly Elbe in the 30’s. Jorgensen in the 50’s. Unlikely certainly but not impossible. You assume the character isn’t trans.

Circling, a non-passing transsexual would never have been hired in a job of that type back in the 1960s. It's simply not possible due to the extreme prejudice they faced at the time. This character worked with children. If a known homosexual would have been roundly dismissed from most jobs (but especially a job working with children), the response for a transsexual would have been equally as harsh if not harsher. They would never have gotten the job at all. Out of everyone here, I find it surprising you'd downplay the struggles such individuals faced.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

Fictional universes need not be as bad as real ones.

[–]worried19 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Sure, but there's no evidence it was a fantasy world. Anyway, that's getting a little far afield. I think your original comment was that Hollywood won't give trans women those roles. It seems to be changing, which is a good thing. I don't mind trans women playing non-trans roles, or vice versa either. Acting is acting.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Okay. I disagree. I don’t really mind natal women playing trans women that much, though I would prefer a trans woman have the role given how few their are. However I will always strenuously object to men playing trans women.

[–]worried19 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Have you seen bad portrayals? I keep meaning to watch The Danish Girl on Netflix, but I heard Eddie Redmayne did a good job in that role.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean the very fact it’s a cis man makes it a bad portrayal. I had less issue with a Redmayne since he seemed to at least have talked to a lot of trans women and didn’t look like a bad joke. But honestly take your pic. Recently Matt Bomer in anything was absolutely appalling and Jared Leto in Dallas Buyers club was absolutely unbearable.

[–]worried19 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is it just that they're non-passing, or did you think the actors themselves took it as a joke?