QT/pro-trans: What are the most common misconceptions gender critical people have about things like being trans, gender identity, your goals or activism, etc?

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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

Transgenderism is not a sexist ideology. When I made my claims, I provided examples of word-for-word comments you can Google in quotes to find. Why can't you do the same?

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

Because you ignored how the equivalence doesn’t work when comparing someone assuming a known side effect of testosterone is occurring and a person saying that taking estrogen made them silly. You just asked me to answer for something someone said on ovarit as per usual.

It’s absolutely a sexist ideology. Believing in some gendered essence that makes biology and sex based oppression irrelevant is sexist. The denial of sex based oppression is sexist.

But here,

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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

You claimed men were making these statements but all the examples you provided were of women. Only one example was from Reddit. Most are from Twitter and I think you wanted to say trans people frequently say these things so that proves your point. But I don't read Twitter and Tumblr much.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Are you saying you didn’t understand that she was talking about transwomen?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

She said men are saying estrogen makes them bad at math, not trans women. Trans women aren't men.

[–]BiologyIsReal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You've been here long enough to notice our definitions are based on biological sex, not "gender identity". The fact that you disagree with this is not excuse to pretend not to understand who we are talking about.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I guess you have a point.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So now will you explain why it’s totally not sexism for these transwomen to call their hormone meddling bimbo pills? We can finish with the word policing you use to avoid questions that show the huge holes in tra thinking?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It is sexism, and sexism is wrong whether it comes from a man, woman or enby.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So why defend it and try to convince us it isn’t?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You didn't answer my question. Did you not understand that she was talking about transwomen?

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol she can’t admit that without also admitting she’s never done anything in this sub but dodge questions that show her how the ideology she subscribed to is nonsensical.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Then why do they take estrogen?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

So they can appear like women. Same reason trans men take testosterone.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Women don’t need to take estrogen to appear as women. Clearly if they have to take something to attempt to alter themselves into looking like women, they were not women who got the prescriptions for estrogen.

Jfc.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Some women do need to take estrogen to appear as women. Some men need to take testosterone to appear as men.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Nope. Language policing will not work for you. Men who take estrogen are men. Women who take testosterone are women. You will not make that language change by being deliberately obtuse or by refusing to engage with questions and latching on to this.