What do you think about cases of young boys raised as girls, but eventually realizing they are boys?

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[–]FlanJam[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What other case is there?

I'd like to know too.

First- what do they mean by “masculinity”?

I'm not quite sure, the way I heard it described was very vague. I assumed they were talking about behavior but I can't be sure.

Maybe they realized they were male simply because they didn’t develop like females do?

That's what I figured. I guess the counter point would be that they were put on hormones so they would've developed closer to how females develop. But I don't think that's enough to fool someone into thinking they're actually female.

Why do tras/qt think that the possibility of proving some type of gender identity matters?

Maybe they think it gives them validity. For example, what's the difference between a drag queen and a transwoman? QT can point to gender-identity, to them that's the extra bit that makes a transwoman really a woman. Without gender-identity, QT has to admit trans people aren't that different from other gender-non-conforming people.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

“I'm not quite sure, the way I heard it described was very vague. I assumed they were talking about behavior but I can't be sure.“

See? It’s always vague. Because specifics dismantles the claim. Every single claim. Every single time.

“But I don't think that's enough to fool someone into thinking they're actually female“

I don’t think it is either. I do think some of the kids being transed irl may believe they will actually change sexes, but I don’t think that it’s an easy feat to successfully convince someone they were actually born the opposite sex.

“Without gender-identity, QT has to admit trans people aren't that different from other gender-non-conforming people.“

But why would this make them different? They still aren’t identifying with anything the opposite sex can understand. So why should it matter to anyone but them?

And to take it further, why should your brain change how I feel about your genitals/your sexed body overall?

You (not you you) say your brain is like mine… okay? And? You’re still a whole ass male so your life experiences are nothing like mine (and vice versa for tm). I still have a female body and female issues and female rights that need to be protected. And since you have a ladybrain too, you should understand and respect that. Why are you contributing to the problems women already have? Why are you telling me what it is to be a woman?

That’s the thing lol- the fact that TW mansplain womanhood and sex to women (while undermining our rights) is so…

male

It’s so stereotypically male that the fact that they don’t see it just makes it more so

How narcissistic do you have to be to think that because you’ve convinced yourself that you have a gender identity, that that somehow matters more than the boundaries and equality of everyone else?

No other type of identity Or community does this.

[–]FlanJam[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But why would this make them different? They still aren’t identifying with anything the opposite sex can understand. So why should it matter to anyone but them? And to take it further, why should your brain change how I feel about your genitals/your sexed body overall?

It doesn't make sense to me either. I can understand why some may find comfort in the idea of gender-identity if they are uncomfortable with their sex. But then they make this massive leap to say gender-identity supersedes sex, and sex doesn't matter at all. This is the core issue with QT ideology imo. You can't just pretend sex doesn't exist when it such a big part of everyone's lives.

And since you have a ladybrain too, you should understand and respect that. Why are you contributing to the problems women already have? Why are you telling me what it is to be a woman?

That's the part that really bothers me. There seems to be no consideration, no sympathy for women. The Wi Spa incident was really a prime of example of how much they dont give a fuck.