QT, if gender is innate to identity

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[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Being "gender nonconforming" does not mean conforming "to opposite sex gender norms." The fact that you can only see black & white blinds you to the fact that when it comes to "gender norms" most people are shades of gray.

This willful blindness to the reality of other people's lives is on you. As a man who finds the "gender norms" you consider "feminine" to be sexually arousing, who puts a lot of time & energy into "femininity," & who benefits a great deal from your status as a man in a male supremacist society, you have a vested interest & myriad incentives for wanting to uphold strict "gender norms" & trying to pigeonhole everyone & everything into one of two boxes labelled "masculine" and "feminine." But most people aren't like you in this regard.

[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

Being "gender nonconforming" does not mean conforming "to opposite sex gender norms."

Can you give me an example of someone being gender non conforming without conforming to opposite sex gender norms?

I can see things can shift from one sex to another or become unisex or disappear but that does not mean everything will do that.

Gender norms will remain and gender non conformity will remain.

[–]Penultimate_Penance 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't shave my legs. In the United States it is not normal for women to not shave their legs. In some cultures it is normal for women to not shave their legs. E.G. Gender is arbitrary bullshit. Name any stupid expectation of men or women you can think of and there is probably a culture out there who has the opposite belief about which 'gender' should be doing what. Gender is the problem not the solution.

[–]theory_of_thisan actual straight crossdresser 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Men are presumed to be more criminal (including non violence), more aggressive and to be the primary positive figures of organised violence (warfare).

That seems pretty universal.

The organised violence role maybe an inevitable side product of civilization, rather than something primary.