GC: How can there be such things as male and female in the presence of intersex conditions? How can there be no such things as "male pregnancy" and "futanari"?

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[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Why are your questions so weird and self-contradictory?

I already just answered to those questions: https://saidit.net/s/GCdebatesQT/comments/8560/gc_how_can_there_be_such_things_as_male_and/u9ss?context=3

[–]BigSecret[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (7 children)

I saw that. Do you have sources though?

First of all, males with PMDS can not produce ova and can produce sperm.

Second, males with CAIS do NOT have penises, and do NOT have any female reproductive organs, they do have testes, but their organism fails to interract with testosterone.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

Sources for what?

You mean why PMDS people can't produce ova when lacking ovaries? Well, because they lack ovaries.

Or why CAIS are capable of supporting sperm-production because they have prostate and working testes? Well, because it is what prostate does, duh.

It is just logical, there no sources needed. But in the links you linked it is stated - the lack of needed organs, so I can send you back to them to read more clearly.

[–]AlexisK 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, because they lack ovaries.

Good one, ahah.

[–]BigSecret[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

The links I shared said, very clearly, CAIS generally identify as women and have penises and testes. That's why I asked "how can penises and testes be male-only organs when females can have them too?". But you say "male CAIS do not have penises, they have testes".

Are you saying CAIS can be either male or female, female CAIS have no penises and testes, and it's the male CAIS that have testes and think they are women when they aren't?

Or are you saying all CAIS are actually males who think they are women when they aren't?

I want good articles, not the ones from before that said, again very clearly, that "CAIS identify as women and have penises and testes", and "males with PMDS have uteruses"

[–]strictly 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you saying CAIS can be either male or female

CAIS can exist in females too, just as CAH can exist in males, but you are probably not talking about them as they are dyadic females and males.

Males with CAIS often have a shallow vagina, undescended testicles and no ovaries. They look female but they are not female.

CAIS identify as women

Woman isn't an identity so identity can't make anyone a woman.

I want good articles

How do you expect such articles to be published when any such article would be censored/banned for not calling woman an identity?

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

and have penises and testes.

No, there said they have testes and vagina-like opening. Nowhere there said that they have penises. And it said they have prostate and don't have ovaries, in link you screenshoted in other branch of discussion.

Females with condition that is analogues to CAIS do exist, but they do not have much problems because of this and they do not have any testes. And condition is called differently, and that condition is not included into DSD conditions. They are 100% regular female, but they have issues with testosterone. Testosterone in females is helping in menstrual cycles and in few other functions of the body.

I want good articles, not the ones from before that said, again very clearly, that "CAIS identify as women and have penises and testes", and "males with PMDS have uteruses"

I don't understand what you want. Plus you are misrepresenting them, in no article there was said that CAIS have penises and that PMDS have ovaries. And those links are very pro-gender ideology. So even gender ideology supporting studies are agreeing with GC points on those cases.

[–]BigSecret[S] 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/androgen-insensitivity-syndrome/symptoms/#:~:text=Complete%20androgen%20insensitivity%20syndrome%20(CAIS,side%20of%20the%20vaginal%20opening).

CAIS is not usually obvious from birth because affected babies have female genitals, including a vagina and labia (folds of skin either side of the vaginal opening)

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/androgen-insensitivity-syndrome/

They [CAIS] typically have a female gender identity. Affected individuals have male internal sex organs (testes) that are undescended, which means they are abnormally located in the pelvis or abdomen.

They say they have "male sex organs". If they have no penises, you still agree they have testes.

CAIS tend to identify as women. Are all CAIS males or not? Are they males that think they are women? Or not?

Also, if everyone with CAIS is a male but has vagina and labia, and if males with PMDS have uteruses, why would uteruses, vaginas, etc be female-only organs when males can have them too?

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just answered all those questions in previous posts... And you are misrepresenting text you are reading in those links. There clearly written one thing, but you automatically asuming it means more stuff than there written. It is so bizzare.

etc be female-only organs when males can have them too?

Because they are not working in CAIS and PMDS? They just either "looking like" those, or are underdeveloped versions of female reproductive organs. Their male reproductive organs are working and they can father a child, while they never can mother a child.