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[–]Omina_SentenziosaSarcastic Ovalord 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Does that mean one day there might be ways to change a human's sex with the use of crispr and genetic engineering in laboratory, before or after a zygote is produced? That "male pregnancy" might be possible? That there might be neopenises that look, feel and function exactly like natural penises? Or neovaginas that look, feel and function exactly like natural vaginas?

Maybe in a very distant future it will be possible, I have no clue what progress will bring. But it' s not going to be possible within our lifetimes, so I don' t see why we should waste time on it now. Leave it to the people who will live when/if that becomes a real possibility.

Is there a reason why a neopenis that looks, feels, and functions exactly like natural penises can not be considered a real penis? Or a neovagina that looks, feels, and functions exactly like natural vaginas can not be considered a real vagina? Despite doing the same things?

If it' s created in a laboratory by humans instead of naturally occurring, then it will always be an artificial replacement, even if it does exactly the same things that a real penis/vagina does.

But as my first paragraph says, this is not what is happening right now given that neither "neopenises" nor "neovaginas" function/look like the real thing.

Wouldn't a laboratory meat that tastes, looks, feels and functions exactly like natural meat be considered real meat?

No, it would be laboratory-made meat. Even if it manages to do everything real meat does, it would still be an artificial approximation. A good one perhaps, but an approximation nonetheless.

Long story short: if one day we will manage to actually change sex (unlikely, but let' s say it will be done), the people who will do it will still be people who were born one way and then changed. If that is going to actually happen, there will probably be different standards when it comes to categorize people based on sex.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 9 fun1 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 9 fun -  (5 children)

No meat grown in a lab would still be meat even of its artificially created. Artificial just means made by humans

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

“Artificial just means made by humans”

Oh you and your half truths lol

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

You said it wouldn’t be real meat, but it would be considered meat.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I actually said nothing about the meat and only pointed out that you ignored most of the meaning of artificial to try to pretend that manufactured/man made meat would be the same.

It wouldn’t be.

Because one would be man made.

That would be the difference. One would be artificial. One would not be.

When you went to the store to buy meat, the man made meat would be labeled as such. Because it wouldn’t be the same as real meat.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

It would absolutely be real meat

https://sentientmedia.org/lab-grown-meat/

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every single article I just read, including the one you linked, references the fact that there is dispute about whether or not this will legally be allowed to be classified as “real” meat or not lol

Also- even if it is considered “real”- they would still label this meat and traditionally obtained meat separately. Other articles discuss the differences in taste and texture as well as the differences in “cleanliness” between the two.

This lab meat is admittedly much closer to the real deal it’s emulating than the neo genitals that trans people have constructed. But the differences are still there and they will never quite be the same.