GC: What should the limits be on erotic consumption and sexual behavior?

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[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I’m not saying you are, or that they should be able to promote their fetishes 🙄

I’m asking who gets the authority to issue and take away cards, who gets a card, what’s pure and what’s not, who’s next on the chopping block, etc etc etc. describing how useless purity spirals are isn’t having a go at you…

[–]worried19[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No worries. I feel like I'm coming off weird in this whole thread. I'm confused on the issue myself.

I feel like the radical feminist community should have some standards. A part of the belief system is being anti-porn, anti-prostitution, and anti-BDSM. However, you see people try to take it from there and go into increasingly debatable territory, such as declaring all PIV or all oral sex on males to be problematic. The community is small, so it's not like it's beneficial to harass women for not being perfectly pure in their private lives. But if they are way off base, I think it is fair to say "hey, you're not a radical feminist if you believe and do these things." But that's only if they're being egregiously in favor of misogynistic acts. If it's something small or if they realize it's bad but can't stop themselves, we should maybe make some allowances there.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We do have standards. The standards are radfem beliefs.

Instead of answering fools policing people with policing them and taking away their imaginary card, a mature response is to open a dialogue and if they persist in arguing against the site rules, report them. You can try and say who is and isn’t a radfem and others can no doubt come up with reasons why you aren’t a radfem.

It’s pointless. Two people having a petty squabble over who’s a better radfem when there’s girls having their clitorises forcibly removed in the world is achieves as much to do anything for radfem principles and qt does.

It seems like you don’t like the idea of opening a dialogue or simply reporting them and moving on. Nobody is stopping you from telling them they’re not as feminist as you but again, it doesn’t achieve anything.

[–]worried19[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It seems like you don’t like the idea of opening a dialogue or simply reporting them and moving on. Nobody is stopping you from telling them they’re not as feminist as you but again, it doesn’t achieve anything.

Yeah, this is why I feel like I'm coming off weird. Mostly when people try to promote kink, I just report and don't engage. I don't call into question their feminist credentials, so to speak. Then it just turns into a slap fight over who's the "better" feminist. Plus Ovarit is not set up for debate at all. I wish we did have a debate space, but the mods specifically said no.

You're right that there are more important issues than fighting about blowjobs.

[–]BiologyIsReal 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Even if there is not a debate sub on Ovarit, IMO discussions there would go much better without the dowvotes. It doesn't seem likely they will get rid of them, though.

[–]worried19[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. The downvotes just make the place feel unfriendly. And it's easy to get mass downvoted if you have an unpopular opinion. But at least downvoted comments are not hidden like they are on Reddit.